(Updated 7/17/20). Have you heard of the anti-aging supplement Protandim? Maybe you saw a YouTube video of when Protandim was featured on ABC's PrimeTime? Protandim called an “Nrf2 activator” has been said to be the “only supplement clinically proven to reduce oxidative stress in humans by an average of 40 percent in 30 days.” That’s fancy talk for Protandim is a type of antioxidant supplement. Unlike other products, Protandim is said to work by helping the body increase its own natural antioxidant enzymes. Sounds good, but does Protandim work, or is it a scam? These are some of the questions I will address in this review. The good news is there are clinical studies on Protandim. I will use that research in this review and help you understand it. By the end of this review, you'll have a better idea if Protandim is right for you.
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What Is Protandim?
Protandim might sound like a drug but it's really a dietary supplement. It's said to combat free radical damage (oxidative stress) by stimulating the production of the body's own natural antioxidant enzymes such as catalase, superoxide dismutase (SOD), and glutathione.
The idea goes like this: instead of taking individual antioxidant supplements (like vitamins C, E, etc.) in the hopes they will battle free radicals and combat aging and disease, Protandim is supposed to augment or ramp up your own naturally occurring free radical defenses.
It's a novel concept to be sure.
The supplement website (LifeVantage.com) says the supplement is “clinically proven to reduce oxidative stress to levels of that of a 20-year-old.” Oxidative stress refers to the stress (cellular damage) caused by free radicals.
What Does The Name Mean?
My guess is the name was chosen because the ingredients are supposed to “pro-actively” work in “tandim” to help defend us against aging and disease.
Who Makes Protandim?
Protandim is a product of a company called LifeVantage Corporation. LifeVantage is actually a publicly traded stock on the NASDAQ. Its stock symbol is LFVN.
The company is located at 9785 S. Monroe Street, Suite 300 Sandy, UT 84070. If you google this address you will see a building with “LifeVantage” at the top. That is good. It tells us the company has a physical location.
Contact LifeVantage
Call the company at 866-460-7241.
The Better Business Bureau gave LifeVantage an A- rating when this review was updated. See the BBB file for updates and more information.
Protandim Ingredients
According to the product's website, there are 5 ingredients in each caplet of Protandim which add up to 625 mg:
Amount Per Serving (1 caplet) | Percent Daily Value |
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Calcium (as dicalcum phosphate & calcium carbonate) 77 mg | 8% DV |
Proprietary Blend Consisting of the following | 675 mg |
Milk thistle extract (Silybum marianum) seed. | |
Bacopa extract (Bacopa monnieri) whole herb | |
Ashwagandha extract (Withania somnifera) root | |
Green tea extract (Camellia sinensis) leaf | |
Turmeric extract (Curcuma longa) rhizome |
Notice in the table above they tell us the source of each ingredient:
- The milk thistle extract is derived from the seeds of the plant
- The bacopa extract is derived from the whole plant
- The ashwagandha extract is derived from the root of the plant
- The green tea extract comes from the leaves of the plant
- The turmeric extract is derived from the underground stems (rhizome) of the plant
Other Ingredients
The supplement label also tells the supplement has these other ingredients:
- Microcrystalline Cellulose
- Croscarmellose Sodium Silica
- Modified Cellulose
- Stearic Acid
- Magnesium Stearate
- Maltodextrin
- Medium Chain Triglycerides
These other ingredients play no role in the effects or benefits of the product. They make up the caplets and/or help with the delivery of the ingredients into the body.
I want to commend the LifeVantage company for sponsoring much of the research below. It's rare to find a product with so many clinical studies.
Protandim Research
Protandim is different from a lot of supplements because there really is clinical research on this product. Below is a summary of the Protandim research with links to the studies for those who want to see them for themselves.
Because scientific studies can be wordy and complicated for most people, I will summarize the study and put the research in the proper context to make it easier to understand.
2016 Protandim Research
Study
The Effect of Protandim® Supplementation on Athletic Performance and Oxidative Blood Markers in Runners.
Study summary: In this investigation, researchers tested if taking Protandim (675 mg/day) for 90 days would improve 5K running performance and reduce TBARS. The study involved 38 runners who were randomly given either Protandim or a placebo.
Results: After 90 days, those taking Protandim (1x/day) showed no improvement in running performance compared to those taking the placebo. In addition, Protandim did not reduce TBARS or alter levels of antioxidant enzymes superoxide dismutase (SOD) or glutathione peroxidase (GPX) during resting periods. The researchers report however that in those over age 35, Protandim improved SOD twice as much as those taking the placebo.
See the full review of this study
Study
Longer lifespan in male mice treated with a weakly estrogenic agonist, an antioxidant, an α-glucosidase inhibitor or an Nrf2-inducer.
Study summary: Here, researchers sought to determine what effect various compounds had on extending the life of mice. Protandim was one of the compounds tested. The other compounds tested in the study were fish oil, ursodeoxycholic acid (a bile acid, used to dissolve gall stones), and the diabetes drug, metformin. Different mice received the different compounds for their entire lifespan.
Beginning at 10 months of age, mice received Protandim at a dosage of 600 parts per million (ppm) in their food. This amount was chosen because it was similar to the Protandim dosage used by people. When the mice were 17 months old, the dosage was increased to 1200 ppm because this was thought to be better.
Study results: researchers noted male mice getting Protandim had a 7% increase in average lifespan. The supplement did not lengthen the life span of female mice. The researchers also point out that while the average lifespan was increased, the maximum lifespan did not increase. Regardless, this was a mouse study.
2013 Protandim Research
Study
Study
Upregulation of phase II enzymes through phytochemical activation of Nrf2 protects cardiomyocytes against oxidant stress
Study results: Researchers noted that mouse heart cells treated with Protandim increased the production of an antioxidant/anti-inflammatory enzyme called Heme oxygenase 1 (HO-1) as well as Nrf2. This was a test-tube study using isolated mouse heart cells.
This investigation is derived from a Masters's Thesis in 2010. The title of the MS Thesis is “UPREGULATION OF HEME OXYGENASE-1 AND ACTIVATION OF NRF2 BY THE PHYTOCHEMICALS IN PROTANDIM .” It is not unusual for a quality MS thesis or other graduate work to go through the peer-review process and be published.
2012 Protandim Research
Study
Antioxidants for the Treatment of Patients with Severe Angioproliferative Pulmonary Hypertension? Published in the journal, Antioxidants in Redox Signaling.
Summary: This is a rat study. Protandim increased antioxidant enzymes in rats, protecting the hearts from damage.
Study
Phytochemical activation of Nrf2 protects human coronary artery endothelial cells against an oxidative challenge published in the journal, Oxidative Medicine and Cellular Longevity.
Summary: This is a test tube study. Human coronary (heart) artery cells were treated with Protandim (20 micrograms per milliliter) or placebo (ethanol). All cells were then treated with hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) to induce free radical damage. Cells treated with Protandim showed less cell death than those getting the placebo.
Study
Protandim does not influence alveolar epithelial permeability or intrapulmonary oxidative stress in human subjects with alcohol use disorders.
Summary: This investigation showed the supplement did not work. To be fair, this was a strange study. Researchers looked at 30 alcoholics . The researchers stuck tubes down the throats of the subjects to take fluid samples from their lungs. They randomly gave the people 1350 mg of Protandim per day or a placebo, for a week. They tested for various things to see if Protandim helped the people. It didn’t.
I don't know how relevant this study is to whether Protandim works or not. I mentioned it because it was a human study. For a much more in-depth review of this study—written by a doctor—see the review posted on ScienceBasedMedicine.org.
2011 Protandim Research
Study
Oxidative stress in health and disease: the therapeutic potential of Nrf2 activation.
Summary: This is a test tube study. Essentially, Protandim altered cellular pathways involved in antioxidant enzyme production and colon cancer, cardiovascular disease (heart disease), and Alzheimer's disease. This is encouraging, but, humans are more complicated than isolated cells. This study doesn’t prove the supplement reduces the risk of any of these diseases.
Study
The role of manganese superoxide dismutase in skin cancer.
Summary: This is a mouse study. Here, researchers reported the supplement reduced tumor growth in mice. For the most part, this appears to be a review of previous research relating free radical damage to the development of skin cancer.
Study
Protandim attenuates intimal hyperplasia in human saphenous veins cultured ex vivo via a catalase-dependent pathway.
Summary. This is a test tube study. Basically, a blood vessel was bathed in Protandim. Researchers noted the supplement reduced the thickening of vein cells.
2010 Protandim Research
Study
The Dietary Supplement Protandim Decreases Plasma Osteopontin and Improves Markers of Oxidative Stress in Muscular Dystrophy Mdx Mice.
Summary. This is a mouse study. Mice were genetically created to have muscular dystrophy. They were given Protandim at a dosage similar to what is recommended for humans. After 6 months, the mice given Protandim showed a 46%reduction in the free radical breakdown of fat (TBARS). TBARS stand for ThiobarBituric Acid Reactive Substances.
The greater the TBAR level, the greater free radical damage. Thus, reducing TBARS is taken to be a good thing. This doesn't prove Protandim helps muscular dystrophy. People with muscular dystrophy should discuss this with their doctor for greater insights.
Study
The chemopreventive effects of Protandim: modulation of p53 mitochondrial translocation and apoptosis during skin carcinogenesis.
Summary: This is a mouse study. Protandim reduced damage to the mitochondria of mouse cells. of this study. The mitochondria, often called the “powerhouse” of the cell, make energy —and makes free radicals in the process. The mitochondria are a major area of anti-aging research.
Study
Chronic pulmonary artery pressure elevation is insufficient to explain right heart failure.
Summary. This is a rat study. Researchers tested if the supplement helped pulmonary blood pressure. After 6 weeks, Protandim did not reduce pulmonary artery blood pressure or the number of lung lesions. These researchers did say “our data point to a cardioprotective effect of Protandim.” But, this is a vague statement.
2009 Protandim Research
Study
Protandim, a fundamentally new antioxidant approach in chemoprevention using mouse two-stage skin carcinogenesis as a model.
Summary: This is a mouse study.
Study
Synergistic induction of heme oxygenase-1 by the components of the antioxidant supplement Protandim.
Summary: This is a test tube study. Cells treated with supplements showed significant increases in glutathione, an antioxidant compound. This is the study LifeVantage lists as “proof” Protandim increases glutathione levels by 300%. It may raise glutathione 300% – in a test tube – but does the same effect occur in people?
2006 Protandim Research
Study
The induction of human superoxide dismutase and catalase in vivo: a fundamentally new approach to antioxidant therapy.
This is a human study. 39 healthy men and women, age 20-78 years were given Protandim (675 mg per day) between 30 and 120 days.
Study Summary:
1. Protandim caused a significant increase in the antioxidant superoxide dismutase (SOD) in red blood cells.
2. TBARS declined by 40% after 30 days
3. SOD in red blood cells increased by 30% after 120 days
4. Catalase decreased by 40% after 120 days
5. There was a non-significant rise (4.9%) in uric acid.
6. No change in CRP levels was seen.
7. No change in HDL, LDL or triglycerides were seen.
Protandim Research Summary
Here is a quick summary of the research:
Study Year / Title | Study Type (Human, mouse, etc.) |
2016 Research | |
The Effect of Protandim Supplementation on Athletic Performance and Oxidative Blood Markers in Runners | Humans |
Longer lifespan in male mice treated with a weakly estrogenic agonist, an antioxidant, an α-glucosidase inhibitor or a Nrf2-inducer | mice |
2013 Research | |
Upregulation of phase II enzymes through phytochemical activation of Nrf2 protects cardiomyocytes against oxidant stress | Mouse heart cells |
2012 Research | |
Antioxidants for the treatment of patients with severe angioproliferative pulmonary hypertension? | Rats |
Phytochemical Activation of Nrf2 Protects Human Coronary Artery Endothelial Cells against an Oxidative Challenge | Test tube study |
Protandim does not influence alveolar epithelial permeability or intrapulmonary oxidative stress in human subjects with alcohol use disorders. | Humans |
2011 Research | |
Oxidative stress in health and disease: the therapeutic potential of Nrf2 activation. | Test tube study |
The Role of Manganese Superoxide Dismutase in Skin Cancer | Mice |
Protandim attenuates intimal hyperplasia in human saphenous veins cultured ex vivo via a catalase-dependent pathway | Test tube study |
2010 Research | |
The Dietary Supplement Protandim® Decreases Plasma Osteopontin and Improves Markers of Oxidative Stress in Muscular Dystrophy Mdx Mice | Mice |
The Chemopreventive Effects of Protandim: Modulation of p53 Mitochondrial Translocation and Apoptosis during Skin Carcinogenesis | Mice |
Chronic Pulmonary Artery Pressure Elevation Is Insufficient to Explain Right Heart Failure | Rats |
2009 Research | |
Protandim, a Fundamentally New Antioxidant Approach in Chemoprevention Using Mouse Two-Stage Skin Carcinogenesis as a Model | Mice |
Synergistic induction of heme oxygenase-1 by the components of the antioxidant supplement Protandim. | Test tube study |
2006 Research | |
The induction of human superoxide dismutase and catalase in vivo: a fundamentally new approach to antioxidant therapy. | Humans |
To be fair, it's possible I may have missed some research. I'll update this table as I become aware of new research.
My Thoughts On The Research
While Protandim has been the subject of several clinical investigations, only 3 of them involved humans. They are:
- The 2006 study (click to see study)
- The 2012 study (click to see study)
- The 2016 study (click to see the study)
Protandim And Weight Loss
Can Protaindm help you lose weight? There is no good evidence for this. None of the above clinical investigations was about weight loss. To the credit of LifeVangage, they do not market this supplement for weight reduction.
Protandim And Multiple Sclerosis
Is this supplement worthwhile if you have Multiple sclerosis (MS)? Some have put forth the idea that disruption of free radical stress – via stabilizing Nrf2 (the stuff this supplement is supposed to improve) – might help MS. So, is there any proof? There was an investigation presented in 2011 at the 5th Joint triennial congress of the European and Americas Committees for Treatment and Research in Multiple Sclerosis Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
The title of the presentation was: Nrf2 activators: a novel strategy to promote oligodendrocyte survival in multiple sclerosis? Here, researchers treated rat and human oligodendrocytes with several compounds ― one of which was Protandim ― and then exposed the cells to a chemical to create free radical damage.
These researchers noted Protandim was seen as “the most potent inducer” of Nrf2 antioxidant enzymes defenses. In other words, Protandim helped the most.
This is intriguing, but it's not the same as giving it to people with MS to see if their symptoms improved.
There is also some evidence that stimulating Nrf2 might reduce cellular inflammation via inhibition of NFkb. Inhibition of NFkb is also something another supplement – called Anatabloc – was supposed to do. Currently, though there is little human proof for Protandim improving quality of life in those with MS.
See the Anatabloc review.
Protandim And ABC Primetime
In 2005, this supplement was featured on ABC's Primetime news show. In this segment, ABC correspondent John Quinones met with Dr. Joe McCord, a respected researcher whose name appears on many of the Protandim clinical studies. According to his Wikipedia page, as a grad student, Dr. McCord was involved with the discovery of Superoxide Dismutase, an important free radical savaging enzyme. Here is the ABC Primetime segment :
Basically, John Quinones gets a blood test to measure his TBAR level (an indicator of oxidative stress). He's given Protandim for 2 weeks and then returns to the lab where he has his blood tested again.
Dr. McCord tells John Quinones the supplement caused a “45% reduction” in oxidative stress and goes on to say this is the level seen in a “newborn baby”. The ABC Primetime segment is often used as proof the supplement really works. But, as I see it, one problem is John Quinones doesn't have is blood tested by an independent lab. This is bad science in my opinion.
Of course, the Primetime segment is interesting. But it's been over a decade since this segment aired. You'd think such an impressive result would warrant a follow-up. I wish Primetime and John Quinones would do a follow-up story.
Update. Dr. McCord is now involved with the PB125 supplement.
Protandim And The FDA
In 2017, the FDA reached out to LifeVantage to inform them they considered Protandim to be a drug and not a supplement based on claims made about it as an NRF2 Synergizer. Basically, the FDA was saying the claims being made at the time, made people think the supplement could treat disease. This is something not allowed under US supplement regulation. This may be the reason for the dramatic change in the LifeVantage website and marketing. There are no more claims about the effects of the supplement. Instead, the company now calls itself “a wellness and personal care company” and makes references to “bio-hacking.”
Do Doctors Endorse Protandim?
While the supplement is not endorsed by the American Medical Association (they don't endorse any supplement), I'm sure some physicians believe in it – and others who don't.
Does Protandim Have Caffeine?
According to the product website, each tablet has 1.8mg of caffeine. That's much less than in a cup of coffee and most energy drinks. I don't think this small amount would keep people up at night, but because we are all different it might be wise to not take it close to bedtime.
Is It Kosher?
No. this supplement is not kosher or organic. It is however made in the US. That is good.
Protandim Side Effects
Are there any Protandim dangers out there? I don't think so. I believe this supplement is pretty safe. I am not aware of any side effects. That said, here are a few general things you might want to think about if your not healthy. This list is not complete:
- Start with less than the recommended dosage for the first week to see how you respond
- Speak to your doctor/ pharmacist if you are pregnant or breastfeeding
- Stop taking the supplement at least 2 weeks before having surgery
- Speak to your doctor /pharmacist if you take any prescription drugs like blood thinners
One study noted the supplement might raise uric acid levels (by 4.9%). Would this be bad for those who suffer from gout? Currently, there is no direct proof gout pain is increased by Protandim. See the review of Tart Cherry Juice for more info.
While allergic reactions are likely uncommon, LifeVantage does mention this possibility in some people. Specific symptoms mentioned on the LifeVantage website include:
- gastrointestinal disturbances (i.e., stomach ache, diarrhea, vomiting)
- sometimes as a headache or rash on the hands or feet
Stop taking the supplement if you experience these symptoms.
The company website warns against using the supplement if you are undergoing chemotherapy or radiation therapy for cancer. This is likely because of the unknowns of combining antioxidants with some cancer therapies. If you have cancer or are getting treatment for it, ask your doctor. I'm glad the LifeVantage company informs people about this.
LifeVantage also stresses the importance of talking to a doctor if you have any autoimmune disease like arthritis or Type I diabetes. I'm not aware of any problems in anyone but I appreciated the company mentioning this.
How To Measure Your TBARS
Remember TBARS are a measure of free radical damage (oxidative stress) of cells. Protandim is said to reduce TBARS. The TBAR test is also called a Lipid Peroxidase test. Ask your physician about this test. For those who really want to know if Protandim is working, getting this test done first—and a month later— might be a good idea. I'm not sure if insurance covers the test or not. Talk to your doctor for more information on this.
Aged Garlic Extract also has some evidence it might reduce TBARS (click to see review)
TrueScience Brand
True Science is a brand name under which various beauty products made by the company can be identified. Products offered under the True Science brand include:
- Shampoo
- Scalp serum
- Facial cleanser
- Eye serum
What is PhysIQ?
PhysIQ is the brand name associated with various fitness-related products. This brand includes:
- Fat burn supplements
- Prebiotics
- Whey protein
- Appetite suppressants
Protandim For Dogs
Protandim Dogs (formally called Canine Health) is for pets. According to the LifeVantage website, this supplement contains 150 mg of the same ingredients as Protandim – as well as omega 3 fatty acids and collagen. The website goes on to say: “Reducing oxidative stress in dogs may reduce many of the disorders associated with aging in canine.” To support this, the organization states a 3rd party animal health company has found the supplement reduces oxidative stress in dogs.
Protandim vs. PB125
PB125, by Pathways Bioscience, is another supplement whose makers claim can reduce TBARS and activate NrF2. PB125 is the supplement by Dr. Joe McCord and associates. Recall Dr. McCord used to be associated with the LifeVantage company.
While PB125 is said to be the next generation of NrF2 activators, no studies have yet compared these supplements to each other to see which is better. The ingredients in both products are different for the most part.
See the PB125 Review for much more information.
Protandim vs. Tru Niagen
The Tru Niagen supplement boasts research showing it can raise NAD+ levels in humans. Tru Niagen is based on nicotniamide riboside a form of niacin (vitamin B3).
The idea of slowing aging by raising NAD+ is different than Protandim. So far no clinical studies have compared these supplements to each other. While the original Protandim does not contain nicotinamide riboside, the Life Vantage company does offer another version called the “NAD Synergizer” which contains niacin.
Protandim vs. Elysium Basis
Basis by Elysium is a popular anti-aging supplement that contains very different ingredients than Protandim. Like Tru Niagen, Elysium Basis also is an NAD+ booster supplement. So, which is better? Unfortunately, there are no head-to-head studies yet.
See the Elysuim Basis Review for more insights.
Protandim vs. SeroVital
You've probably seen TV ads for SeroVital. How does Protandim compare to SeroVital? Both supplements contain different ingredients and are touted to work differently.
While Protandim is said to help boost our bodies antioxidant enzymes, SeroVital is marketed to raise human growth hormone (HGH).
If we just look at the research, Protandim wins hands down. The makers of Serovital only have one study.
Where To Buy Protandim
This supplement is not sold in stores like Walmart, Target, Cosco, CVS, Walgreens, Kmart, or BJs. It's also not sold at GNC or Vitamin Shoppe. Rather, it's mostly purchased from LifeVantage independent distributors.
It is also available online as well although when using a distributor, you may get the individualized attention you might not get by buying it yourself.
Protandim Price
According to the LifeVantage website, a one-month supply (30 capsules) costs $59.99 retail. If you order it through a LifeVantage distributor, it costs $49.99 – and that is on a monthly basis. In other words, that means auto-shipments. If you want to purchase one month only to test drive it first, speak to your LifeVantgage independent distributor.
Protandim Yearly Cost
Let's round the price up to $50 a month. In one year, the supplement would cost you $600. Shipping and tax may be extra. If you only want to order 1 bottle to try yourself, you can get it on Amazon too.
My Suggestions
If you can afford it, go ahead and give it a try for a month or so and see if you feel any better. If you really want to know for sure, get your TBARS measured first.
Remember, exercise will also reduce TBARS too.
Protandim Pro & Con
Here's a quick summary of what I liked and didn't like. These are my opinions. Yours may be different.
Pro | Con |
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There are clinical studies on Protandim | Not all the studies are on humans |
Company has been around a long time | Not available in stores |
Company sponsors research on Protandim | Expensive |
Lots of hype about benefits |
Does Protandim Work?
While I'm intrigued at the prospect of slowing down aging, I'm can't say for sure if Protandim works or not. The research is intriguing but in my opinion three's not enough human research yet to draw conclusions. So, does Protandim really work? Let's just say I'm looking forward to more human clinical studies.
Here is it is on Amazon If you want to check it out/see what others are saying
Greg B says
Aren’t you the pot calling the kettle black, complaining about someone posting anonymously? Are you accusing Spondy of making this up? Where do you get off making such a charge? Where are all the peer-reviewed, published studies saying Protandim does not work? Do you have any evidence that Protandim did not help him? What explanation do you have for his improved health? Why don’t you get a life, and stop tearing down something about which you obviously know nothing!
Vogel says
My eyes roll whenever I read far-fetched stories like the one NE Spondy posted feigning an association between taking Protandim and symptoms of ankylosing spondylitis (an incurable chronic degenerative disease) practically disappearing in a mere 4 months. Aside from this being a virtually impossible outcome and that there is no plausible mechanism that would explain how Protandim could do this, there is no way to scrutinize the claim itself — no way to know whether this individual ever even had AS; no independent verification of any of the details from medical records or the treating physician; etc. As such, claims like this are worthless. In the best case scenario, we are hearing from a naive individual who drew a faulty conclusion about cause and effect. In the worst case (and more likely) scenario, it represents a completely manufactured and bogus story purposely intended to deceive.
It’s also a red flag that those anonymous individuals who post these fairy tales get offended when people push back and point out why such claims are at odds with reality, since it is basic commonsense to not believe miracle cure stories posted by anonymous individuals on blogs about MLM products like Protandim that have associated with them a tainted history of staggering dishonesty and deception.
After being challenged, the person who posted this claim won’t come back back with the requisite supportive evidence, but instead, if they respond at all, will bristle with outrage that anyone would dare to not believe them, and assert that they don’t care if their story isn’t believable — which begs the question as to why they would post such claims in the first place, knowing that they lack value, are not believable even on their surface, and that they tend to elicit eye rolls and belly laughs rather than inspiring awe about the healing powers of Protandim.
I would argue that if this person wants to convince any member of the public that Protandim can treat AS, the only logical path would be to have the company submit the product for FDA approval for that purpose, but such an argument would be futile since the company will never attempt to seek such legitimacy for its product.
NE spondy says
I started taking protandim 4 months ago. I have ankylosing spondyloarthritis. I went from sleeping 10 + hours to 7 hours, I went from 6 tramadol doses to ONE A DAY. I’ve halved my dose of cymbalta, gone off my metoperolol , and am now weaning if my prednisone I’ve been on for years.
My inflammation markers are NORMAL for the first time since I was diagnosed. I dont care what the stock is worth, I dont care if it’s in my head. It didn’t work over night, it didn’t have tons of guarantees as a “miracle program” like plexus.
Greg B says
How can you say the studies are”worthless window dressing” when most of them were NOT performed by LifeVantage, and they passed the peer-review process and were published in reputable medical journals? Window dressing studies would be company-conducted ones that were rejected by, or never even submitted to, academic publications.
Yes, LV’s stock has bounced around over the years, but it has been rising in recent months, and with the introduction of new products the prospects for continued increases is good. The current corporate leadership team is a good one, and it would be unwise to bet against LifeVantage!
LisaRob says
Greg says: “How can you say the studies are”worthless window dressing” when most of them were NOT performed by LifeVantage, and they passed the peer-review process and were published in reputable medical journals?”
Why do you keep asking the same questions over and over again, when they have already been addressed multiple times, and are the very topic of this website? The only conclusion I can reach is that you post this nonsense for the sole purpose of burying the truth, and hope that the rest of us will tire of setting the record straight. Does Lifevantage pay you for this service?
For the record:
Most of the studies have Joe McCord as an author, which means they are not independent studies.
The only human study with a placebo control was an utter failure for Protandim.
All but 2 published studies were done on rodents, or in test tubes. PubMed clearly states that multiple clinical trials (human) are needed to determine whether something “works” or not. The vast majority (over 90%) of products/drugs that show promise when tested on rodents fail when tested in human trials.
Paul Myhill, the “inventor” of Protandim, no longer takes it.
Hesu Whitten says
Lisa you just ended this entertaining debate. Slam dunk. End of conversation. I wish I could find such a rational conversation taking place on the internet debunking the massive scam that vaccinations are.
I read Dissolving Illusions by Dr. Suzanne Humphries and thought ‘Oh my God, the whole culture has been sold a myth of massive proportions with no science to support it’.
And then there’s Irving Kirsch going on 60 Minutes and exposing that after analyzing the drug companies’ own studies, antidepressants don’t work any better than placebo. He has some wonderful longer lectures on Youtube (an hour or so) where he goes into the details of his statistical analysis. Shocking stuff. This is a call for the bright minds on here to redirect to bigger fish than Protandim. I think that ship has been well sunk 🙂
claudia roulier says
uh oh here we go again…….
Vogel says
“And are you aware that the price of LFVN stock has almost doubled since then, and that revenues went up last quarter?”
The stock was trading at over $25 a share back in 2012. Now, since the 1:7 reverse split (initiated after the company was notified of pending de-listing from the NASDAQ) it is trading steadily below $10 a share. The company has hit the skids. Key executives and distributors bailed. Now LifeVantage is a mere shadow of what it once was when the pyramid scheme peaked. Now it’s a slow fizzle to the bottom.
Vogel says
It is also worth noting that the share price back in 2005 (adjusted for the split) was more than $77. Now hovering around $9. A catastrophic collapse from which there is no hope of recovery.
Vogel says
“The fact that the science overwhelmingly supports Protandim, and the thousands of people who have taken it and experienced improved health, do not constitute proof of Protandim’s beneficial effects?”
The so-called “science” does not overwhelmingly support Protandim. It is worthless window dressing designed to give the dolts and scammers who sell the product camouflage to hide behind. Case in point.
Vogel says
“LifeVantage manufactures and sells a product that has a high profit margin, one of the basics of a good business model, hardly what I would call a pyramid scheme.”
The product itself is dirt cheap to produce, but the overall profit margins with MLMs are typically razor thin because paying out the pyramid eats up most of the revenue. LifeVantage does not have a good product or a good business model, and they’ve been taking it up the heiney the past couple of years. Deservedly so.
Greg B says
And are you aware that the price of LFVN stock has almost doubled since then, and that revenues went up last quarter?
Greg B says
So what kind of proof are you looking for? The fact that the science overwhelmingly supports Protandim, and the thousands of people who have taken it and experienced improved health, do not constitute proof of Protandim’s beneficial effects?
claudia roulier says
Ummmm Gregg are you aware that they just did a 7way split of stock value because were about to get delisted on NASDAQ which means that the company is in trouble……financially.
Mike B. says
Interesting. When was this?
claudia roulier says
the 7 way split happened
early in the year
Greg B says
Suggesting someone take Protandim to reduce their Oxidative Stress is not offering medical advice, any more than suggesting someone with a headache take a couple of aspirin is. What I don’t get is your psychopathic attack on Protandim, even though it has solid science behind it, and numerous people have benefited from taking it. What’s your problem?
No one is being forced to take it, and those who don’t see the results they want are free to stop taking it. Your telling people to not take Protandim could be construed as giving medical advice! As for foisting these “delusional snakeoil pyramid scheme fanatasies”, have I even once tried to get anyone on this blog to become a distributor?
Also, if LifeVantage is a pyramid scheme, how did it get its stock listed on NASDAQ? A company has to undergo a rigorous examination, proving itself both legitimate and competently run, before being allowed to list on that market.
Terry says
You are correct when you infer that LifeVantage isn’t a Pyramid Scheme, it is their job to convince their customers that they will profit from being involved in one, and who probably wouldn’t be able to be listed on the NASDAQ.
LifeVantage manufactures and sells a product that has a high profit margin, one of the basics of a good business model, hardly what I would call a pyramid scheme.
An advantage of this type of business is that these companies don’t have to make illegal claims and risk litigation, they leave that to their customers who are part of a pyramid scheme. Once they let the cat amongst the pigeons it is very difficult for the authorities to control it.
Annelies ter Kuile says
Thank you very much for your comments about Protandim. It is not at all proven to have the beneficial effects. Thank you once more to open our eyes,
Annelies ter kuile
Ted G says
Just wanted to say thanks. A lot of work and good analysis – it is unbiased as I have seen in a industry where there is no definitive answers. Thanks again and bless you for you work.
Joe says
Hi Ted, thanks so much. I appreciate that.
Phil says
Did you say testimonials?…bwahahahahahahahahahaha
Greg B says
Vogel, your credentials for speaking on the subject are…? At least I have peer-reviewed, scientific studies, and numerous testimonials, to support my position. What do you have, other than your hate-filled opinion?
Vogel says
Unlike you Greg, I’m not offering idiotic medical advice on treating chronic diseases. You must have great contempt for humanity to foist upon people your delusional snakeoil pyramid scheme fantasies.
Glen Stambaugh says
I don’t know anyone who has a single “minute per week” over a period of years that they would waste responding to positive comments on ANYTHING. You clearly have an undisclosed motivation or just plain get some peculiar satisfaction from dissuading people from trying a product many find helpful.
If you’ve got that much time to waste, you might wish to invest some more of it into a better understanding of Life Vantage and the issues between it and Myhill. I would look forward to being informed rather than misinformed base upon your inferences.
Vogel says
Greg B: “so taking Protandim would be a very good idea.”
Taking Protandim is never a good idea.
Not-a-doctor Greg said: “Because you have some serious chronic conditions, it may be a while before you feel any difference in your body, so plan on taking Protandim long-term.”
You know literally nothing about the subject and make a fool of yourself every time you post.
Greg B says
Sally, you don’t take Protandim to relieve the symptoms of any specific diseases or ailments; you take it to reduce Oxidative Stress. Now doing so may help your feel better vis a vis your conditions, but there are no guarantees. But slowing down the damaging attacks by toxic free radicals upon your cells will be beneficial to you, so taking Protandim would be a very good idea.
Because you have some serious chronic conditions, it may be a while before you feel any difference in your body, so plan on taking Protandim long-term. Also, be sure you get it from the distributor who has introduced Protandim to you.
croulier says
I have both osto and RA arthritis no luck for me same with my sister the other sister is a distributor. Good luck.
Sally says
Im just debating wether to try Protandim as I am ill Fibromyalgia & Osteoporrosis has anybody out there have similar ills & had good results Iam also very allergic to 21st century chemicals thanks ..Sally
Vogel says
Sally: “Iam also very allergic to 21st century chemicals thanks.”
Just out of curiosity, what exactly is a 21st century chemical?