Update 6/4/22. Few products have generated as much interest as the Thrive Patch, also known as the “Thrive Premium Lifestyle DFT.” The patch is supposed to provide a time-released steady stream of weight loss and energy-boosting ingredients into the body that is said to be “greatly superior to that of any consumable product.” Does the Thrive weight loss patch work or is it a scam? I think this question hinges not only on the ingredients used in the product but also whether those ingredients actually be absorbed through the skin and into the body? These are the big questions I'll address in this review.
Why A “Critical” Review?
While the title of this review includes the word “Critical” I want to make clear that I am not referring to something bad, meant to bash the product. In the world of science, a “critical review” means a review that contains information that the author feels is critical for people to know about.
My hope is this review will help you better understand the Thrive Patch, the DFT technology and ingredients used in the product.
What Does DFT Stand For?
DFT stands for Dermal Fusion Technology. It's a phrase used by Le-Vel (The Thrive company) to refer to the Thrive Patch. From the name, it sounds to me like the patch is supposed to fuse with the dermis and epidermis of the skin, and in doing so, allow the ingredients in the patch to pass into the body. From there, those ingredients are supposed to help with weight management, curb appetite and give people energy to work out better.
When I looked at this product, there were 3 different types of DFT patches. They are:
- Thrive Premium DFT
- DFT Ultra
- Black Label DFT
Let's first look at the Premium DFT Patch and then cover both DFT Ultra and Black Label DFT patches below.
Thrive Patch Ingredients
According to a PDF on the Le-Vel.com website, there are 6 ingredients in the Premium DFT patch. They are:
- ForsLean
- Green Coffee Bean Extract
- Garcinia Cambogia
- COQ10
- White Willow Bark
- Cosmoperine
I can't tell how much of each ingredient is in the Thrive Patch. If any Thrive Promoters can share that with me, I'll be glad to update this part of my review.
Either way, since the ingredients are listed in the order I've put them here, I believe this means that ingredients at the top make up most of the product, and those at the bottom make up the least.
At the heart of the DFT technology is the very last ingredient in this list – Cosmoperine. This is what Dermal Fusion Technology is based on. Let's take a look at that ingredient next.
What Is Cosmoperine?
On the DFT patch pdf file which can be downloaded from Le-Vel.com, we see that cosmoperine is trademarked by the Sabina corporation. Sabina is a company that makes a very of supplements and holds patents on them too. Cosmoperine is the common name for a compound called Tetrahydropiperine (THP).
On the Cosmoperine.com website, we see THP is the name given to a metabolite of black pepper. The page I linked to also states cosmoperine (THP) can enhance the absorption of various drugs (and supplements) when they are applied transdermally (on the skin).
Here is the US Patent page for THP.
The US Patent, tells us the Sabinsa Corporation (which owns the trademark on THP/cosmoperine) has provided evidence THP can increase the absorption of Forskolin when both compounds are applied to the skin (rat skin according to the patent). Since it works in rat skin, I'll assume it also works when used on human skin.
Forskolin (also called coleus forskohlii) is another name for ForsLean which is also in the Thrive Premium DFT patch. The Sabinsa corporation calls their preparation of forskolin, ForsLean.
So, to summarize, it appears the driving force (the secret sauce, if you will) in the DFT patch is Cosmoperine. This ingredient allows other ingredients to be carried through the skin. But, just because those ingredients can get into the body from penetrating the skin, does that also mean they will work?
This is the BIG question.
Let's look at the research on the Thrive DFT Patch next
Thrive Patch Research
I searched the Le-Vel website for research to show that the Thrive Patch caused people to lose weight. No evidence could be located
I then searched the web for:
- Thrive Patch Research
- Thrive DFT patch Research
- Le-Vel Thrive DFT Research
No clinical studies could be located.
This says to me the Thrive Patch may have no published, peer-reviewed clinical studies showing it causes people to lose weight.
Remember, just because the ingredients in the Thrive DFT Patch might penetrate the skin does not mean that they will cause weight loss. They might or might not. These are two different issues.
So, to get a better idea, we will have to look at each ingredient in the Patch to see what might be going on.
Let's do that next.
ForsLean
This is a trademarked version of a supplement called coleus forskohlii (say, cole-E-us-four-skoll-EE). Since it is listed first, it makes up most of the Thrive Premium DFT patch ingredients.
As I noted in the review of coleus forskohlii, there is weight loss research on this ingredient. Some of that research shows it might work and other studies show it might not work.
In one study, which lasted 12 weeks and involved 19 overweight women, researchers noted coleus forskohlii might reduce gaining weight.
In other words, it didn't cause the women to lose weight, but just reduced their odds of gaining weight. The women in this study used 500 mg of coleus forskohlii per day.
This study used ForsLean, the same brand of coleus forskholii that is in the DFT patch. That's good.
Remember, the women took an oral supplement. They didn't put it on their skin. Would a transdermal patch also work? I can't find a single weight management study involving a ForsLean transdermal patch.
Green Coffee Bean Extract
The active ingredient in green coffee bean is often said to be a compound called chlorogenic acid. As such, chlorogenic acid is likely the extract used in the TDF Patch. I'm not convinced this compound works.
As I revealed in the green coffee bean review, one of the very best studies on this compound was retracted by the authors because they could not verify the results of the study. Here is the study. As can be seen, the words “this article has been retracted” as well as and “Retracted” appear scrolled across the study pages.
In 2014, a small study was published that involved 20 healthy people. For 2 weeks people drank 40 grams of green coffee (1.4 oz) and for another 2 weeks, they drank 40 grams (1.4 oz) of black coffee. They were told to not alter their eating patterns.
Researchers noted when people drank green coffee, they had a lower body mass index (BMI), lower cortisol levels and had lost more abdominal fat, than when they drink black coffee. They also experienced lower blood pressure and their blood vessels were more elastic too.
Regardless of our feelings about this study, the people in this investigation drank the coffee. They did not use a transdermal patch.
See the list of weight loss scams for more insights.
Garcinia Cambogia
This is also called HCA or hydroxy-citric-acid. I'm on the fence when it comes to Garcinia Cambogia and weight loss. As I pointed out in my review of garcinia Cambogia weight loss research, I have seen research showing:
As well as research showing
At best, it's a toss-up. Many studies have problems, which further complicates things. No study appears to have been done to see if a transdermal patch of garcinia Cambogia helps people lose weight.
Read the Garcinia Cambogia review and pay attention to the side effects controversy too.
COQ10
CoQ10 is short for coenzyme Q10. It's also called ubiquinone because the molecule is ubiquitous, or everywhere, in the body. It's a substance that helps our mitochondria turn calories into energy.
I have never seen a study of CoQ10 and weight loss or weight management. When I looked for evidence, I saw articles saying it helped, but no website showed me proof – published clinical studies involving people.
This is the CoQ10 brand I use
White Willow Bark
White willow bark contains a compound that looks like aspirin. So it has some pain-reducing effects. This is why you might see it show up in arthritis supplements such as Instaflex (click to read review). It's also an ingredient in Thrive W so see that review for more insights.
Weight loss and weight management supplements sometimes contain white willow bark. This is likely because of the reputation aspirin has for increasing the effects of caffeine and ephedra. In the fitness world, this combination is called the “ECA Stack” where ECA stands for:
- Ephedra
- Caffeine
- Aspirin
I think this is the reason I saw white willow bark in these two weight loss supplements from TV trainer, Jillian Michaels:
Thrive Black Label And Ultra Patches
There is more than one type of Thrive Patch. There is also:
- Thrive Ultra Patch
- Thrive Black Label Patch
The difference between the Ultra and Black Label patches is not only in the ingredients used but also the size of the patches may be different too.
In the table below, I compare the ingredients in all 3 different types of Thrive Patches – in the order, they are listed on the product pdfs – so you can compare them to each other.
Thrive Premium Patch | Thrive Ultra Patch | Black Label Patch |
---|---|---|
ForsLean | ForsLean | ForsLean |
Green Coffee Bean Extract | Green Coffee Bean Extract | Green Coffee Bean Extract |
Garcinia Cambogia | Garcinia Cambogia | Garcinia Cambogia |
CoQ10 | CoQ10 | CoQ10 |
White Willow Bark | White Willow Bark | Cosmoperine |
Cosmoperine | Cosmoperine | Satiereal Saffron Extract |
Satiereal Saffron Extract | Green Tea Extract | |
Green Tea Extract | White Willow Bark | |
5-HTP | ||
L-Theanine | ||
L-Arginine | ||
Quercetin | ||
Guarana | ||
Yerba Mate | ||
Vitamin B12 |
As previously said, they don't tell us how much of each ingredient is present in the different DFT patches. We can only assume that the ingredients listed at the top are most plentiful while those at the end of the list are the least.
All versions of the Thrive Patch contains the cosmoperine ingredient. That's good. Remember this is the ingredient that appears to help carry other ingredients through the skin.
As you can see, the Black Label Patch has the most ingredients. But, does this mean it's better than the other two? We can't know which is best unless they are all pitted head to head against each other in a clinical study.
Clinical studies on this topic cannot be located.
That said, let's cover a few of the ingredients in the Ultra and Black Label patches and see what we can discover about them as far as weight management is concerned.
Satiereal Saffron Extract
This is an ingredient in both the Thrive Ultra and Black Label patches. Satieral is the name given to an extract from saffron. The extract is called Crocus Sativus. The company that makes the satiereal extract is a French company called InoReal.
Here is the US patent for Satiereal.
The name satiereal, refers to satiety, the feeling of fullness and not wanting to eat anymore.
There is some research on Satiereal.
In a study published in 2010, 60 overweight women were given either satiereal or a placebo for 8 weeks. The women consumed 176.5 mg of satiereal per day. Researchers noted women who used satiereal weighed less than women who got the placebo. Those women also reported less snacking too.
There have also been some studies on saffron to help depression.
In a 2005 study of women who were depressed, 45 women were randomly given 30 mg of saffron or a placebo for 6 weeks. Women getting the saffron (Crocus sativus, which is what Satiereal comes from) scored better on depression questioners compared to women who got the placebo.
Several other studies also hint that saffron can help mild to moderate depression too. But, does satiereal work when it's in a patch? The research involves taking it orally – not in a patch.
Heres Satiereal Saffron on Amazon
5 HTP
This is an ingredient in the Black Label Thrive Patch. Another name is 5 hydroxy-tryptophan. It's a variation on the amino acid, tryptophan. The 5 HTP molecule (like tryptophan) helps us make serotonin which plays a role in mood as well as appetite. As far as depression is concerned, studies are sometimes criticized for having issues.
As for reducing appetite and weight loss, this also has been studied. In one investigation, 20 overweight women were randomly given either 900 mg of 5 HTP or a placebo for 6 weeks. The woman who received the 5 HTP lost more weight than women who took the placebo.
How much weight did they lose? Somewhere between 3 to 5 pounds over the course of the study. That's not much given the study lasted 6 weeks.
No study using a transdermal patch can be located. All the studies appear to give 5 HTP orally.
L-Theanine
This is an amino acid that is found in tea. Theanine sometimes finds its way into weight management supplements. I believe it's used in supplements in the hopes it might help calm people down. The idea is people who are less stressed are probably less likely to overeat. This study lends evidence that L-Theanine can have a calming effect on people. In this study, 50 mg was used in healthy people.
In one study that involved 16 people, Theanine seemed to make people feel calmer when they were relaxed, but it didn't seem to have any anti-anxiety effects when they were stressed – in other words, when ya really need it to work.
L Arginine
Arginine helps us make nitric oxide which can help relax blood vessels and this is why it's sometimes used in exercise supplements – as way to drive more blood/oxygen to muscles during exercise. For more on nitric oxide see the review of SuperBeets.
Arginine also helps us make human growth hormone (HGH). While growth hormone can play a role in muscle building, and this, in turn, might lead to weight loss, I think one has to take a lot of it to increase HGH levels.
See the SeroVital review for more insights.
In one study of arginine and weight loss, 90 overweight men and women were given either 3 grams or 6 grams of arginine a day or a placebo for 8 weeks. Researchers noticed those taking arginine showed significant reductions in body weight, blood pressure, blood sugar, hemoglobin A1c, body fat, triglycerides, and total cholesterol. These changes were not seen in those getting the placebo.
What about weight loss? Those getting 6 grams of arginine a day lost about 8 pounds while those getting 3 grams a day lost about 3 pounds.
This investigation was based on a Masters Thesis. One problem was that the study was “single-blinded.” This means the researchers knew who was getting arginine and who was getting the placebo. Also, body fat was determined using skinfold calipers and the researchers only measured 2 sites (triceps and subscapularis regions). That might be an issue because if more sites were measured could lead to more accurate results.
Regardless, this was an oral arginine study. No patch was used.
Quercetin
Quercetin is an antioxidant found in foods such as broccoli and blueberries. Does it affect appetite, weight loss or anxiety? Proof cannot be located.
Other supplements containing quercetin include:
- Life Shotz (click to read review)
- Ceraplex (click to read review)
- Tissue Rejuvenator (click to read review)
See those reviews for more information.
Guarana
This is a source of caffeine. Caffeine is popular in weight loss products and energy drinks. The idea being that the more awake you are, the more you will move and burn calories. Other products I've looked previously that also contained guarana include:
Caffeine – alone – seems to have little weight loss research. In other words, caffeine is almost always used alongside something else.
Yerba Mate
As I mentioned in my review of the fat burner called Thermo Detonator, I located a study were people who took 1000 mg of yerba mate seemed to burn fat better than those who took a placebo. I don't think the Thrive Patch has that much yerba mate.
Other products reviewed here that also contained yerba mate include:
See those reviews for additional information.
Vitamin B12
Vitamin B12 is a water-soluble vitamin that we actually store in the body. While healthy people may not need this nutrient regularly, other people like vegans, older folks and those taking certain medications may be deficient. Vitamin B12 is also popular in weight loss supplements. I think there are 2 reasons for this:
1 The vitamin might give us more energy
2 The vitamin might help weight loss
If you not deficient, vitamin B12 probably does not boost energy levels. As for weight loss, there is no good proof it does this either.
See my review Vitamin B12 and Weight Loss.
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Thrive Patch Active Ingredients
When I review a product, I like to try to drill down to what I believe might be the active ingredients. I do this not only because I'm curious, but also because people ask me.
Because they want to save money.
After looking at all the ingredients these are the ingredients that might be most responsible for any weight loss effects that people might notice. Here they are:
Thrive Premium Patch | Thrive Ultra Patch | Thrive Black Label Patch |
ForsLean | ForsLean | ForsLean |
Garcinia Cambogia | Garcinia Cambogia | Garcinia Cambogia |
Cosmoperine | Cosmoperine | Cosmoperine |
Satiereal Saffron Extract | Satiereal Saffron Extract |
Notice the similarity between the different types of Thrive Patches. Of course, cosmoperine is present in all of the DFT patches because, as reviewed above, this is the ingredient that's supposed to carry the other ingredients into the body.
Also, notice that ForsLean (coleus forskholii) is the first ingredient listed in ALL of the DFT patches.
As for the other ingredients listed in the table above, I found human weight loss/ appetite suppression studies on them (which you can read above). That research though involves when they are taking orally. Whether they work the same way when used in a patch, I cannot say.
For those on a budget here are those ingredients to purchase individually:
Thrive Patch and Weight Loss?
Le-vel distributors often say that the Thrive Patch is not a “weight management” supplement and not a weight loss supplement.
But, what does “weight management” really mean? It's a vague term. Think about it. Just saying you are managing your weight doesn't say how you are managing your weight. Are you managing it to gain, lose, or maintain weight?
The fact is many of the ingredients in the patch are weight loss compounds. Specifically, these 3 ingredients are in many weight loss supplements:
- ForsLean (Coleus forskohlii) click to read the review
- Green Coffee Bean click to read the review
- Garcinia Cambogia click to read the review
Thrive Patch Side Effects
When I looked for online testimonials, I didn't see anyone complaining of terrible things when they used the DFT Patch, so that's good.
In the comments below, a few people, have mentioned the Patch caused rashes, blisters and/or caused red/itchy skin. To reduce this it may be wise to rotate where the patch is placed on the skin. Don't place the patch on the same area all the time.
I think the side effects would probably hinge on whether the ingredients really can get into the body in significant amounts. That said, let me make a blanket statement and say:
- If you take any medications, (like blood thinners) or are breastfeeding or pregnant, show the ingredients to your doctor and pharmacist first.
- Stop using the patch at least 2 weeks before having surgery
- If you have any health issues like heart disease, high blood pressure, depression, diabetes, psychological issues, or liver or kidney problems, show the ingredients to your doctor and pharmacist.
Who Makes The Thrive Patch?
Thrive supplements are a product of the Le-Vel LLC. They are also known as Le-Vel Brands LLC. Their website is Le-Vel.com. Their address is 9201 Warren Pkwy #200, Frisco, TX 75035. Their contact phone number is: 888-557-0005.
The BBB rating for Le-Vel was A+ when this review was updated. The Better Business Bureau noted “patterns of consumer complaints” surrounding refunds and the creation of unauthorized accounts. See the BBB file for updates and more information.
SiteJabber gave Le-Vel 3 stars out of 5 when this review was updated. See the SiteJabber site for more insights.
The review of Thrive W has more information and hundreds of comments and testimonials.
My Suggestions
When taken orally, I believe the ingredients which might be the active ingredients are:
This is for taking them orally. I am unable to locate proof they work when placed on the skin.
Does The Thrive Patch Work?
Here are my opinions on the Thrive DFT Patch.
1. There is evidence cosmoperine can penetrate the skin (of a rat) and increase the absorption of some drugs when applied to the skin. Presumably, this means it also works on human skin too. I'll assume it does.
2. There is evidence cosmoperine can enhance the absorption of ForsLean (coleus forskhloii) when both are applied to rat skin (let's assume human skin too). Since ForsLean is the first ingredient listed in all of the Thrive Patches could this be the main active ingredient?
3. I believe there is a lack of clinical research showing the patch increases blood levels of the ingredients in the human body.
4. Most of the research on the ingredients involves taking them orally – not placing on the skin with a transdermal patch.
I'm genuinely intrigued that an ingredient placed on the skin can enhance the absorption of other ingredients. That said, even though the Thrive Patch is touted as being a better delivery system, I want to see a few human weight loss studies before I give a final judgment. I'm really looking forward to published studies on this.
Matthew says
FWIW, truthinadvertising.com did a FOIA with the FDA and found The company had to report 16 adverse reactions between 2013 and 2015. Abdominal pain, increased blood pressure and such. 3 required hospitalization and/or ER visits.
Bear in mind, these are just the cases reported to the company in that time frame. Others could have had adverse side effects and never told the company.
Joe says
Matthew, I believe this is the review you were referring to: https://www.truthinadvertising.org/what-you-should-know-about-thrive/
Staci says
I am on day 7 of thrive and the first few days was horrible. My whole body was achy and I was extremely tired. The third day got a major headache along with my body aches. My promotor said that it could be either I was getting sick or I was detoxing. The next day luckily that subsided. I continued to take it because they say it takes a few days to work.
The next few days I would have energy in the morning and then crash around noon and then pick up slightly again. Plus I was starving. So my promotor said to drink more water and to eat small meals throughout the day so I did that and it did help a little. I wasn’t as tired or hungry the next day. I did feel more alert, and focused, and happy even.
However the one thing that has remained constant is my shortness of breath. Even though other symptoms have been getting better and lessening and I was feeling way better the shortness of breath had me worried. So I tried to do a lot of research because I also had a heavy feeling in my legs especially going upstairs and sleeplessness the last few nights. I had that feeling before when I took energy vitamins.
The one main ingredient I have found in both is vitamin B12. The recommended dose is 2.4 mcg, and in ONE capsule theres 100 mcg. I researched that too much B12 in some people who are more sensitive can cause a loss of potassium which then causes the exact symptoms I was experiencing like shortness of breath. Other than that I like the product.
Today I only took the shake and the patch because I was afraid of my shortness of breath. Should I stop taking thrive all together or should I take a potassium vitamin along with my thrive? OR just cut out the capsules? Im really confused at what I should do.
Joe says
Hi Stacy, its only my opinion take it for what its worth but I would not take anything that made me short of breath.
Gregg says
Problem is you are listening to a promoter, they know nothing about ingredients, and possible interactions with the body. All they are taught is that you are detoxing. It’s an excuse they can’t even explain.
Before they took Thrive they knew zero about supplements and health, but all of a sudden on day two they can promote it. Product education is very minimal with these types of companies. All it is is CEOs who are motivational coaches who give great speeches taking young woman/men and exploiting them.
Lauren says
Joe,
As a former successful MLM promoter who has since gotten out of the game, this company and its followers really bug me. As a past MLM promoter, I can first hand say that business is not a career. Many current promoters portray it as, and get many people in deep water. I have paid attention to several Thrive threads through many websites who review these products.
I’ve noticed one thing, Thrive promoters and customers can consistently only answer a couple questions. Caroline (recently) and many others have come up with some legit questions that a customer claims he could answer, but nothing. If the product doesn’t work, customers used it wrong. If they had a negative reaction, it’s detox.
There is nothing that proves there products are premium. No test or studies released. Where do the ingredients one from that makes them so superior? No one knows.
I myself created an account, not one questioned was answered. How on earth can promoters claim premium status!? I just don’t understand how people take this with no background on where the product comes from. Who actually produces the product? No one knows! My company I used to work for and most companies answer these simple questions so there promoters are educated! Joe…..what is going on with this company!?
Joe says
Hi Lauren, I really can’t speak to that. What companies did you use to work for?
Lauren says
Mary Kay, Isagenix (for a short time)
Joe says
Thanks Lauren 🙂
Lili says
My question is how far did you get? Most people who are not good at sales or MLM as a whole give very bitter reports as I find this one to be. Just because someone does not make it does not mean the product is bad, but they take their little experience and blah blah badmouth it..so sad people are like this!!!
Lauren says
Lili,
I spent a little over 10 years with Mary Kay while earning a salary of about 80k a year. I’d say this is pretty successful considering only a handful make over 100k.
With Isagenix I was a mid level promoter, because of the short time I promoted it. So in your response, I WAS successful, and I DID make it. I was very good at it.
I got into it for the same reason 99% of woman do. The more successful you are the deeper you get, the more bonuses I earned just meant I had to work harder to keep them and to keep my rank. I just couldn’t relax for a month. I always found myself on the phone, looking for that next lead. People started to avoid me. I couldn’t keep a conversation with a friend without a sales pitch being thrown in there.
For example I have a friend that is at the 40k rank with Thrive. She is supporting her family with the extra income. She has earned 80k in bonuses this past month. Those bonuses are paid out over I think 28 months while maintaining that rank. It took a lot of hard work to achieve her 40k rank. Now, she has to work her ass of for the next 28 months so she can see that money.
She is slowly starting to realize that she is getting in so deep that she believes she can’t maintain it. From the outside this looks promising to a new promoter, but when you get there, it’s a lot of pressure to get new promoters and make sales just to maintain a rank.
Lili, thanks for your attempt to shut me down, but it didn’t work. Maybe you should have asked about my background first.
Todd says
Lili, Lauren says she was a successful mlm promoter. I find your statement as a reply to her… weird.
Carol says
Just curious, when Thrive Promoters say premium grade nutrition, what does this mean? What makes the ingredients premium, and where do they come from. Where does each individual ingredient come from that makes it above the rest. Thrive is something I looked at doing, but could find little answers from customers and promoters. I think there is a promoter handbook with 10 sentences that are repeated to interested customers, but they can’t really explain further. The search continues…
Joe says
Hi Carol, my 2 cents is that “premium” is just marketing. Ads for 5 hour energy used to say it had as much caffeine as a “premium cup of coffee.” Here’s my 5 hr energy review
Caroline says
I have have been very curious about Le-vel recently, so I went ahead and created an account, basically because that was the only way to view prices and contact someone. I had a dozen or so questions I wanted to ask a customer service rep with. Come to find out, it is impossible to speak with anyone.
You have to create a customer support ticket, then they will get back to you within 24 hrs. I found this extremely annoying. Out of the 13 total questions I had, they answered 1. All the others, they could not because it was a secret blend. For example. I asked how much protein is in Thrive, they responded with we cannot release those numbers at this time. These are very basic questions Le-Vel is hiding behind.
Anyone else have these results? How to promoters make claim to anything when they themselves can’t get any answers.
Mark says
hey caroline i am an active thrive customer maybe i can help with questions?
Caroline says
Ok….
How much protein is there? I hear that Thrive will tone you up, but Thrive support wouldn’t release the numbers. How do promoters claim this?
How much Caffeine is derived from Guarana, green tea extract, etc. Again, Thrive wouldn’t release the numbers. Don’t give me the less than one cup of coffee speech.
How much White Willow bark?
Why did they change the name of synepherine in Thrive? I’ve heard they received a lot of flak for it being in there products, why did they change the name to mislead?
Vitamins are great, but why add all the other harmful ingredients? ( appetite suppressants, caffeine, synepherine, etc)
Why is there so much misinformation amongst promoters? There is never one consistent answer.
Being in the medical profession it really bothers me detox is used as an excuse. Why do promoters us it?
Caroline says
Where you at Mark!? I thought you could answer my basic questions.
Collye says
15 g of protein in the lifestyle mix (shake)
40 mg of natural caffeine derived from green tea, green coffee bean and guarana in the capsules (if 2 capsules are taken)
25 mg of natural caffeine from black tea in the shake
No caffeine in the DFT
All 3 steps total 65 mg of caffeine…
Yes, that’s less than a cup of coffee
Synephine is a compound not the ingredient…so it was changed to bitter orange
For example, green tea, black tea, is listed instead of just saying Caffeine
All our plant extracts are sourced from farms in the USA
Thrive is manufactured out of Frisco, Texas
The purity, dissolution and absorption rate all meet the highest regulatory standard verified by an outside third party testing.
Vitamins sold at Walgreens, GNC, etc are nutritional grade…these supplements are not tested for purity, dissolution or absorption rate effectiveness.
Additionally, these supplements do not always have the same concentrations of active ingredients as listed on the label.
Le-Vel facilities and manufacturing process are GMP and NSF certified, the manufacturing and quality control is tested weekly, as these certificates are the highest standard you can receive in supplement manufacturing. We source all our ingredients from the highest grade plant and vegetable farm around the United States.
Everything is certified non-Gmo, certified gluten free, and we use NO synthetics. You would be extremely hard pressed to find another product line with the efficacy, technology and results that Thrive has documented.
Tim says
Collye,
15g of protein is nothing, very minimal. Even if you absorb all 15g (which you don’t) you will see no changes. So I don’t know how it is marketed by promoters as a muscle toner.
For once your correct on the caffeine amounts. But this is on the basic 3 steps. If you add black label, activate, pure to your supplement concoction your adding 320mg. It seems like these products are often used so I feel it must be mentioned. Per Thrive support, Synepherine is found in the pills, the formula is the same, they just found an excuse to change the name.
I believe they have a P.o box in Texas, but everything is shipped and boxed out of a warehouse in Utah. I don’t see how they would produce it in Texas, ship it to Utah just to be shipped again. 90% of all Direct Selling supplements are produced here because of the lax regulations.
Where are these documented statistics on the efficiency, product line and technology? Talk is great, but where is the proof. Where are these certifications? I’ve asked time after time for absorption rates because promoters have claimed 100%, but have received nothing.
On a side note, if you look for USP certified vitamins, you will find that these are in fact the best. You can actually find proof, studies and test. I don’t see Le-vel with this certification.
Karen says
Thank you for your research, Joe. I tried to find info on the Thrive website about ingredients with no success. I wanted to give Thrive a try since it looked simple enough. Yet, I’ve just come off of preventative meds for A-Fib after having some issues with it. My Dr. is hopeful my heart will now stay in normal rhythm. One of the key triggers is caffeine so I know Thrive would not work for me. I also have a thyroid disorder and anything messing with hormones isn’t good. Bummer!!
Joe says
HI Karen, Here is a review I wrote on stuff that has evidence. I dont think most of these should pose a problem with a fib or your thyroid. double check with your doc and pharmacist to make sure. https://joe-cannon.com/what-weight-loss-supplements-work/
I hope this helps some.
Jennifer says
The Le-Vel website has a PDF for every product they sell, which includes ingredients and percentages. It is all accessible on the website. I have seen it, saved it, printed it, distributed it. Every question I have ever asked has been answered. I am very sorry to hear that you have been having trouble getting information. My up line is very knowledgeable and has been extremely helpful to me in this process.
David says
Please provide the link. Thanks
Harold says
Weird, Le-vel support has rarely had an answer for any of my basic questions, that’s why I chose another supplement.
Kayla says
Joe I want to thank you for this article!!! A while back a friend suggested Thrive to me after telling me how much it has changed her life and I admit she looks fabulous and fit! She told me she thinks it will make the world of difference in my life as I suffer from many health issues and take a number of prescriptions to barely get through my days.
Before I got sick I was extremely fit and active, but after many surgeries and medications whose side effects include weight gain. I have put on a good 30 pounds. Being active and working out are also very hard for me as I easily get dizzy, light headed and have fainted while exercising striking my head. My friend told me she thinks Thrive will make the world of difference for me and make me feel fabulous again.
I totally forgot about it until recently when a number of my friends started raving about it. So I told my spouse about it and he told me to look into it but that he was concerned as other health supplements and weight loss pills and such made me extremely sick where he almost took me to a hospital because he thought I was having a seizure. I started sweating, my heart racing, began feeling faint and went to lie down when he checked on me my whole body was shaking and he said I wasn’t responding to his questions right away.
We got it under control and he got rid of the pills. So like I said he is hesitant to have me try Thrive. I have read a lot of reviews from people who rave about it. But many of them are now part of le-vel’s mlm as distributors so I refused to take their reviews as unbiased.
So I began researching and came across your article. Again I want to thank you for taking the time to do so much research into this product! I wanted to weigh in on the patches especially after comments from people getting rashes. I am someone with allergies to adhesive’s and even hypoallergenic medical tape and band-aids give me a nasty rash.
And I have tried other dermal patches like scopolamine and had pretty severe rashes and even hives after just 30 minutes that required prescription strength cortisone and some Benadryl. So I am thinking that the patches are a no.
To the other commenters who asked for opinions about a patch adhesive allergy I would say if you have normally not had a reaction from adhesives or other dermal patches, I would make sure you are not allergic to other chemicals in the Thrive patches.
Also after reading how people have felt after missing a few days or more of the products, that again makes me dislike this product. After reading your article and most of the comments I have to say I am more on the side of not going to give it a try especially if I have to shell out a large wad of cash to do so!
Then there is the fact that many people have announced that they felt sick and exhausted after missing just a few days of the product and others a nice case of withdrawal after deciding to discontinue using it. Sorry but a product being marketed as a way to lose weight, feel more energetic and totally change your life but only if you start by handing over wads of cash and continue taking the product line forever. I think there are much better options for people out there including me!
Again Joe thank you for writing this article!
Joe says
Hi Kayla, you are very welcome and I thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
Jason Smith says
Kayla,
If I had an unlimited amount of hands to applaud you I would. From what I read, you’ve had a very rough time recently. It would be very easy at this time for you to do the lazy thing and say screw it, give me Thrive. Like most people do.
But you took the time to research it, unlike many others. Through your research and third party reviews you can see why Thrive is useless, it’s a quick fix money pit. I hope others read your comment and make the same decision. I’ve had several friends come off of Thrive, return to horrible habits, and had red rashes stick around for several months.
I’m not sure what your in the market for? But on several of Joes other review sites I’ve seen someone recently post about Refreshinq, it’s a patch. It may be a no go for you considering your adhesive issues. But it has everything you need without all the hazardous ingredients! I’m sure there are plenty of other products out there. Look for the USP seal on vitamin bottles!
Jean says
Hi there. A friend gave me a sample to try for three days. The shake filled me up so I wasn’t hungry, and I took the vitamin supplement on an empty stomach as suggested. I had energy like never before, but it made me feel so buzzed I didn’t want to take the second vitamin later in the day.
Now I am not sure if this is sheer coincidence, but when I stopped, I became increasingly tearful, could not stop crying the second day after not taking the Thrive products. I have not felt this way for a long time (not since menopause anyway!) I have a low grade headache, feel hungry all the time.
As I say, it might be coincidence, but it may be that my body is seeking to balance itself after the frenetic energy and eating less food while I was taking the product.
Trevor G says
It called Multi-Level Marketing, people.
Why are you even discussing it?
If none of the ingredients has been proven to cause weight loss in proper, double-blind studies, conducted on thousands of people over long periods of time; and if the patches obviously only contain a tiny fraction of the doses used in the few studies that do exist (that don’t prove weight loss), then HOW would you believe the patches do anything at all except make money for their inventors, who had the foresight to realize that people will fall for anything marketed well. And anything user’s can also make money from.
Jessy says
So I just found this out…… Synepherine used to be in the ingredients list for several Thrive products. Now it’s removed. I contacted Le-vel support, it in fact is still in the products, for some odd reason they removed it from the ingredients list! How is this legal!? I would like a Promoter to explain this one!?
HB says
Jessy,
Another name for Synepherine is Citrus Aurantium. Looks like they changed the names. The average interested customer won’t pick up on this. Most won’t even look at the ingredients. I guarantee promoters didn’t even catch it. Why would they do this? This just shows a lack of regard from this company, I’ve never heard of a “Top level company” try to fool there customers like this.
Taylor says
Chirp chirp chirp……silence amongst the promoters….. they have no explanation.
Josh says
Proper diet and exercise is KEY. Yes, Thrive contains all the vitamins, minerals, probiotics, and antioxidants you need for daily health. But so does a lot of other products. You don’t need the additional baggage that’s comes with Thrive products; caffeine, stimulants, sleep aids, inflammation support, appetite suppressants.
What does taking appetite suppressants accomplish? Yes you may loose weight, but you can’t take it forever. You have to teach your body to deny sugary sweets and fatty foods, not have a supplement do it for you. Sleep aids, yes there great. But there is a reason why your not sleeping. It could be poor diet. With sleep aids, you can’t take them forever, your going to have to eventually figure out why your body is having trouble sleeping.
Be careful of the stimulants and not getting hooked on them, your body will be used to the caffeine intake, and when you come off of it you will feel the full effects of caffeine withdraw, its miserable.
In there description it says there products are of the highest quality. This is great, but where is the proof. There is no independent studies done. I know when it comes to studies on MLM supplements there isn’t much. So if Thrive sets it self high above the rest, Why not prove it? All I see is a bunch of big word jargon on the website, with nothing to back it up. If they truly are pharmaceutical grade products, why aren’t they USP certified? There is just to many questions with very vague answers.
In my opinion Thrive promoters are the least educated amongst MLM companies. They just repeat what is written on the website. (Premium nutrition, nutritional gaps). What is this? Explain? They can’t. I had a buddy who was about 50lbs over weight, on Thrive for about a week and now promoting it, tell me I’m not healthy and I need to fill my nutritional gaps. WTH? How can you go from being overweight, eating fast food, to telling me after a week about health? There is no education when it comes to this product. Every promoter says different things.
Karen Brennan says
I’m a nutritionist and I see a lot of people at the gym wearing these patches so i finally started to research it and came upon your article. I Have to say I’m quite skeptical- first of all, if you don’t change your diet you aren’t going to get sustainable results. I don’t like not knowing the amounts in this patch and am concerned by the caffeine in it. Is this supposed to be time released? Honestly, the people I see who are wearing these patches continue to work out but they look the same. If you want to lose weight its 80% diet, 20 % exercise- if diet pills and patches worked then we wouldn’t be an obese society would we?
Joe says
Hi Karen, thanks for dropping by and sharing your thoughts. Nice website. I like that pic of you and your dogs. Much success with the book you are writing too 🙂
Alyssa says
I am a customer of Thrive since October. That being said, I am not a promoter, because I don’t like being officially attached or commited in a any way beyond purchasing or using the products. Recommending the product genuinely to me is different than recommending a product for personal gain. I gain nothing from this review other than the satisfaction of an honest review.
The following are two main factors that have impressed me with thrive, personally. 1) More self control over diet and 2) Increased energy. There’s a big issue with just saying diet and exercise is all you need. While, in fact, that may be true, the problem with overabundance of calorically rich food in this country, along with chemical food addictions to starches, sugars, and fats, the great majority of diets or healthy eating attempts fail. Most people would eat better if they had the willpower. But willpower is one of the biggest hurdles in losing weight. I find that thrive reduces my cravings for food. I still like to eat, but I don’t order the wrong food at restaurants, or fall prey to the cake at work like I used too. Basically, I have more self-control.
Energy-wise, I have always been low energy. I have over slept most of my life. I do struggle with depression occasionally as well. Taking thrive gives me the energy to get out of bed and be productive. I no longer over sleep.
These statements being said, the appetite control and the energy only remain while using the products. I personally have experimented with all methods of the three products (shake, vitamins,and patch). I have tried them individually, half dosed, and and have stopped them and restarted, so I have a pretty clear picture of how they work for me.
The shake is good as a meal replacement or supplement, and it’s biggest noticeable effect is the energy. It is very stimulating, and when I make one (which I don’t everyday) I make half a shake and use half another shake mix of my preference. A full shake to me is too stimulating. I would recommend the shake as a good pre workout energy boost.
The vitamins give me the most sustained energy. It takes about 20-30 minutes to feel the effects. I don’t always take two. Two may be too much, especially for beginners. If I have a long day, I may take the second pill in the afternoon.
The patch when used along with the vitamins help with self control. The vitamins help some, but I have tried the patch alone and the vitamins alone and I feel the best results when I use the two together. At the moment, I am using half a black label patch at a time, switching it out half way thru the day. 1 whole patch can give me a headache, but half a patch does not, and I feel this method also helps with getting thru the whole day.
The product gets a lot of criticism for having stimulants. But the truth is, that’s the whole point. As the review on this page demonstrates, there are multiple different types of stimulants, including the caffeine, B vitamins, synephrine, etc. Plain old vitamins are not going to help you control your appetite or increase your energy. They may help prevent nutritional deficiencies, but thrive has these extra ingredients for a reason. Stimulants reduce appetite, may increase metabolism, and give you more energy (as no coffee drinker would ever debate).
Because of the Stimulants, I would caution starting slow, using half of the product, and perhaps trying one at a time so you know how they will effect you. If you are sensitive to caffeine, have heart or blood pressure issues, it’s probably not your best bet.
If someone has the desire to start a diet and exercise program, thrive may help you with appetite control and energy.
If you are having negative side effects, it’s most likely a reaction to the stimulants. Reduce you dose, and if that doesn’t help, stop taking it. There is no such thing as detoxing caused by taking thrive. Detoxing means your body is coming off of something very harmful, like drugs or alcohol. Taking a product will not cause your body to detox! If you notice your symptoms have lessened or gone away completely, it’s most likely because your body has adjusted to the stimulants. Raising heart, palpitations, shortness of breath, nervousness, feeling flushed or anxious, can all be side affects to caffeine or any other stimulants.
If your body is not accustomed to caffeine, you may notice these symptoms at first. If you are already drinking caffinated beverages, you likely will not.
Yolanda says
Today is my first day and I still can’t sleep! it is 2:00 am! I guess it is normal! I suffer from anxiety when I drink coffe so I want to see if this dose is going to affect me! If somebody has the same problem as me lmk please
Joe says
Yolanda, I hope you are ok now. Did you only use the patch? what time did you take the supplements?
Lynn says
Yolanda, I’m trying th eprogram, too. The friend from whom I received the products told me (and it’s in the instructions, too) not to drink ANY caffeine while using Thrive. Also, because I’m not a caffeine person, she suggested taking only one of the morning pills instead of 2. That’s what I’ve done, and I’m sleeping as well as I can with a screwy work schedule. Good luck to you!
Josh says
Your not supposed to ingest any Caffiene because Thrive contains loads of Caffiene to begin with. Any supplement you have to modify is not a supplement worth taking. Supplements can’t replace good hard work when it comes to diet and exercise.
John Evans says
Yolanda,
I must say that the pills made me very jittery. I was told that it was because I was detoxing. I had to quit taking them altogether. Let my roommate try the program because it did not work for me.
He quit after a couple of days because he felt there was way too much Caffeine in them.
I do have several of family and friends that have no problem with Thrive but others quit.
Debra Sweet says
I thought you said L arginine showed to have some weight loss potential but it was not listed as one of the ingredients that works. Can you clarify or did I just read something wrong?
Joe says
Hi Debra, good question. I didn’t mention arginine for weight loss because the study I summarized had some issues (the researchers knew who was taking arginine for example). I’d like to see a couple of other arginine-weight loss studies first.
Pat says
Why do I get a rash from the thrive patch?
Joe says
Hi Pat, Some have said this too. While I’m not sure why, my guess is it may be an allergic reaction to the adhesive on the patch.
Anyone else here have thoughts on the rash?
Donna says
I have had this problem too. I have found that if I clean the area where I am about to place the patch, it takes care of the issue. My thinking is that by removing dry dead skin, dirt and body oils the patch does not trap itchy things underneath and will stick for 2 days without irritating me. This is my own personal experience. Some people could have an actual reaction to something in the patch or the adhesive. So individual results may vary. Good luck
Jan says
Unfortunately, I have tried everything I can think of, including thorough cleansing before application, and I continue to get a raw square that takes 7 days to heal, so I am giving up on the patch. I should mention my first two weeks, I never had an issue, but after that, it was not been good, lots of itching, lots of weeping, irritated skin –tried multiple locations on all four appendages over the past four weeks. I have never been allergic to anything.
I am giving up on the patch but will continue with the shake and capsules, I can’t see what I will really be missing without the patch. I have been feeling very good, internally, using the Thrive products.
Anna says
Hello, I’ve never been allergic to anything before either but now I noticed that I am allergic to the adhesive. And so now I need hypoallergenic adhesive. Hope it helps you a little on this issue.
William says
If you’re a promoter/educated customer could you please answer a few questions for me. I’ve had these conversations with past promoters and not one has been able to give me a straight forward answer. Maybe someone on this Thread can. Here we go……
Do you plan on taking Thrive for the rest of your life?
How is Thrive teaching you about health? In my eyes it isn’t.
Does it work?….maybe, but what is it really doing for you in the long run……absolutely nothing.
I see posts about how people don’t consume coffee anymore like it’s a huge accomplishment, in reality your digesting the same amount of caffeine. How much caffeine is there really in Thrive? When I emailed Thrive Support they gave me the amounts for all the products. When I added the total, it was almost 300mg of caffeine if you take all the Thrive products. This doesn’t take into account the caffeine derived from Green Tea, Guarana, etc. By weight caffeine accounts for 50% of the total weight in Guarana, this is huge. Thrive refused to tell me stating “they legally don’t have to bc it’s in a proprietary blend. Pretty shady if you ask me.
How much White Willow bark is in Thrive products, Support provided the same answer “we don’t have to…….”. If I gave you two aspirins and refused to tell you the dosage, would you take them?
So back to my question, Thrive is just high dosage of caffeine and white Willow bark. To many people look for the easy way out. To me, Thrivers are the laziest of them all. If you feel great after the 8 weeks and then stop, you complain about feeling bad again. What did you just accomplish by taking Thrive?……nothing, your back to square one.
If you actually took the time, spent money on a dietitian and meal prep, went to a doctor to figure out why you hurt; you could use this and take it with you your whole life. You won’t have to rely on an expensive supplement.
Why Are they continuously upselling there products. If the 3 step is so great, why have 6 other products that do the same thing?
It bothers me that the 300lb dude on Facebook that started taking Thrive 3days ago and now has decided to promote it gives me a little speech about being healthy. You don’t know anything. Stop it. There is no education in these products. A dietician goes to school for 2+ years, by you are educated in telling me about my health in 3 days?
I see these Thrive experiences on the FB page, they all state that they had tough life’s before Thrive. If you read them, their not tough, give me break! You just made poor health choices and too lazy to fix it yourself.
J Deither says
I go to a dietician and meal plan. I also was very active until my gallbladder surgery 2 yrs ago. I see 3 drs for pain. I currently have high insulin (my glucose levels are fine). The drs have ran multiple tests to find out what is causing the pain. They are stumped. I will be having a polyp removed from my endometrium.
All 3 think that Thrive is a great supplement for me. It has everything in it they have suggested I take for my problems. I am joint pain free for the first time in my life. I am able to be on my knees for the first time in 14 yrs (something happened when I gave birth to my oldest).
Otc and prescriptions have never taken away the pain. I would rather take the natural ingredients and receive the benefits than be on a dozen prescriptions that have multiple side effects. Yes I will probably take it the rest of my life while I continue a healthy lifestyle. I never drank coffee. Occasionally a caffeine free soda. Life has never been easy for me and I will do whatever it takes to be able to function. And at this time Thrive is allowing me to function.
William says
J,
I’m sorry for all your ailments. I never said Thrive didn’t work. Thrive is managing your pain for now, but there still needs to be a long term fix. To the average customer (99% of Thrive users) there lazy to face poor choices, and therefore Thrive is an easy way out. Obviously your pain is out of your control, I.e you didn’t cause it through poor choices (so it seems).
I’m still waiting for my answers from an educated promoter. I’ll keep waiting.
J Deither says
Where are you getting a high dose of caffeine from?
Thank you for contacting Support.
The amounts of Caffeine per item are: 50 milligrams per serving (2 capsules) in the Men’s formula, 40 milligrams per serving (2 capsules) in the Women’s formula, 50 milligrams per serving in Activate, 120 milligrams per serving in Pure, and 25 milligrams per serving (1 scoop) in the Shake formula. The only DFT that includes caffeine is the Black Label DFT Patch which contains 19 milligrams.
For comparison, a Standard cup of coffee contains 80 milligrams per serving of caffeine. As you can see – our Capsules and Shake combined are less caffeine than a cup of coffee.
Most people are getting 65 to 75 mg. Maybe 19 mg more for Black label. I know many Tbrivers and they use the capsules, shake, and dft.
William says
J,
your numbers are correct. This is the issue, when I talked to a promoter he claimed he took all of those products you listed including black label. He said it was still less than a cup of coffee. False! If you add it up based on your numbers, that’s three cups of coffee. 3!!!!!
Now, to the average Thrive Experience I read, seems like black label is pretty popular. Take into these numbers your at 84mg, just over a cup of coffee. What Thrivers lack to admit is the presence of Caffeine in additional ingredients. Guarana, green tea extract, green coffee bean, Theobromine,Synephrine, and black tea. Every ingredient I’ve listed is found in Thrive and contains more Caffiene.
Just as an example Caffeine accounts for 2% of coffee total weight. Caffeine accounts for 53% of Guarana total weight. Do you get my point. Everyone lists the amounts advertised and published. But they choose to ignore Caffeine amounts in the proprietary blend. It’s amazing how everyone is on this how dare you drink coffee binge, when in reality your ingesting more Caffeine than me.
Once again, I’ve contacted Thrive, and they refuse to tell me how much of each product is listed. This is where I get my statement “high dosage”. If Thrivers were more truthful and forthcoming I wouldn’t be so hard against it. It just seems like there is an ignorant or lack of education and a lack to admit what Thrive really contains.
Paige says
I just started Thrive 2 days ago. I am now on my 3rd day. The first day went well. I only took one capsule and drank half the shake and then put on my dft patch. I had so much energy all day! I usually take naps on my day off and I felt no need to that day. Yesterday was my 2nd day and I took one capsule and drank the other half of my shake. I felt very sick for a few hours after that and I think it might be the milk in the shake.
I recently discovered that a lot of milk products bother my stomach, so I’m assuming I’m lactose intolerant. After my stomach pains passed, I felt better and still had energy.
Starting my 3rd day, I’m kind of scared to drink the shake because I don’t want the pains I had yesterday. I already took the capsule and I’m thinking about just eating a small healthy breakfast. Maybe a banana and some toast with peanut butter.
I like the energy I am getting from this program, but is it worth it to continue if I stop drinking the shakes?
Joe says
Hi Paige, I think its good that you are easing into it. I think that’s wise with all new supplements you take. Why dont you try holding off on the shake today and just do a capsuel and the patch and see if that changes how you react? Then tomorrow, maybe try just the shake without the other 2. that will help you pin down if there is a connection. It is flu season too so that might also be something to consider.
Do let us know what happens.
William says
I read so many post from promoters saying the reason why it didn’t work is because you didn’t use it as directed. You have to strictly follow the instructions. But then go on to tell someone it’s ok to cut the patch in half, or take one pill if your sensitive to caffeine. How does this work? Paige, please take advice from an educated scholar in the nutritional field, not a promoter. It’s always an excuse to why it doesn’t work or your feeling a certain side effect.
Joe says
Hi William, I have noticed that as well.
J Deither says
Are you eating breakfast after? I can’t do it as a meal replacement. I have to eat a high protein breakfast. Maybe that is the problem.
Angie Luna says
I’ve just started my 3rd month of using Thrive products now. I can tell you that I’m 56 years old, have been overweight for years, don’t usually sleep well or soundly at night, and wake up tired and droopy. Have been taking afternoon naps for many years just to get through the day. As soon as the sun goes down, I’m wide awake, and can’t sleep well at night.
I’ve been on a low-carb high-fat diet off and on for over a year now, with the key being OFF & ON. BEFORE THRIVE I found it hard to stick with it at times, and bounced on and off this way of eating for the last year. Since starting Thrive a little over 2 months ago (I’m at the beginning of my 3rd month using Thrive), I’m able to stick with low-carb high-fat eating (yes, it’s HIGH FAT…the fat keeps me satisfied so I don’t cheat, AND helps get rid of the fat in my body), have tons of energy from the time I get up in the mornings, no longer have that afternoon lull, ZERO AFTERNOON NAPS for the last 2 months, have energy all the way through the evenings, and when I finally do go to bed I sleep very soundly and wake up feeling rested.
If you are just starting Thrive or are using a 3-day sample, you should work up to the full dose of everything. Recommended dosage is: Day 1 – 1 W or M Capsule (depending on if you’re a Woman or a Man), 1/2 Lifestyle Mix/Shake, and NO DFT PATCH. Day 2 – 1 W or M Capsule, 1/2 Lifestyle Mix/Shake, and 1 DFT Patch. Day 3 – 2 W or M Capsules, 1 WHOLE Lifestyle Mix/Shake, and 1 DFT Patch. This is working your way up slowly, because if your body isn’t used to this much nutrition, it will overload your system and you’ll feel bad like Krista above, or it will give you a headache from nutrition overload.
It’s also important when using the Thrive products NOT to take other vitamins, since it has everything in it you need, and to either drink DECAF coffee or NO coffee, and NO ENERGY DRINKS. If you normally drink coffee or energy drinks, &/or take vitamins, and you ADD the THRIVE to that, you will probably get headaches from too much caffeine and/or nutrition overload.
I will NEVER be without my Thrive again. I feel better than I’ve felt in AT LEAST 30 years, maybe forever! I now have the energy of a young person, and in fact can run circles around some of my friends that are in their 30’s (and I DO run at times because I show dogs). Everyone around me has noticed a difference in how I act and how I feel, and are asking me what has changed. I happily tell them about Thrive, just because it would be a great world if everyone felt as good as me. 🙂
Oh, on the weight loss front, I’m now able to stick with my low-carb high-fat lifestyle, as I started before, with ZERO CHEATING, and my weight loss is continuing. I still have a looooooooong ways to go to get down to ‘normal’ weight, but for the first time in my life, I KNOW I can do it, with the help of my Thrive products.
I take 2 W Capsules every morning when I first wake up, drink a Thrive Lifestyle Mix/Shake 20-30 minutes later, and slap my DFT Black Label Patch on. And other than the effects of having more energy and feeling great all day and sleeping restfully/soundly at night, my appetite is also less, I eat less at each meal, am losing weight, and my joints ache less. My mood is much better, I have more patience, and I feel AWESOME!
I also just started the Thrive product called Move a few days ago. It is for sore joints, and seems to be helping already.
Also, I used the regular Thrive DFT Patch for the first 2 months, just started the DFT Black Label Patch 4 days ago when I started my 3rd month of Thrive, and I can tell a difference in my mood and also appetite control…..even better than when using the regular DFT Patch, with extra mood enhancers and extra appetite control.
I’m looking forward to a long, happy, healthy life with my Thrive products on board. And my husband just started on Thrive TODAY (Thanksgiving Day), since he needs more energy during the day, needs to sleep better at night, needs less aches and pains, needs to lose more weight, and needs his blood sugar lower (yes, he is a Type 2 Diabetic). Also put him on the Move for joints, since he has achy joints also.
Anyone have any questions about Thrive, just ask. I’m sort of a newbie to using it (starting my 3rd month, as I said before), but so far I STRONGLY believe in it…it’s been the miracle I’ve been searching for. If I don’t have answers for you, I can ask someone that’s been a Thriver longer than me.
HAPPY THRIVING, EVERYONE, and HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
William says
I just don’t understand how someone is ok with relying on a product to do all the work. In your post, you admit to the issue. You lack motivation to diet properly. Your constantly tired because of your high fat diet. I’m literally trying to rap my head around your diet plan, did an actual person come up with this? Eating proper isn’t easy, it isn’t cheap either. But it is something you can take with your for the rest of your life.
The problem now, and which you admit to, is that you will have to be a Thriver for life. You haven’t learned to tell your body “I can do it”. The product does it. When I see someone loose weight the hard way, by dieting and proper nutrition through meal prep and eating whole foods; that’s far more impressive than someone who did it your way. And now you sucked your husband into it as well.
Jill says
LOL, Thrive doesn’t make you healthy. Taking vitamin packs don’t make you healthy. William, your spot on. Why would I have questions about Thrive for you? If your not educated enough on a product that you in fact are taking, and have to ask someone, clearly shows you are lost.
Lisa says
You seem a little salty about the whole situation. Why steal people’s joy? If they enjoy Thrive then so what…like it is any skin off your back. Geez…go complain about something that matters
Ronald says
Lisa, so if someone enjoys cigarettes then so what….. let them enjoy them? Right? Don’t explain the dangers of it?
I don’t think he is salty, just voicing his concerns. From what I read on here he brings up very good points.
Jared says
Lisa….. it’s not complaining, he’s explaining. I don’t think Williams intentions where bad, just very straight forward.
Paula says
If a product works for someone, and they have done their research, who are you to judge that it is “lazy” of them, if they choose to take supplements that make them feel good. I have been dieting, working out and every other thing I can think of, to try and be healthy for years, (over 20) I recently tried the “Thrive Experience” and I have not felt this kind of energy, or mental clarity in a very long time.
It is my choice to do with my body as I see fit. I don’t judge people that are out there, who are Vegans, or “Raw Eaters”, or someone who feels that they need to work out for more than 2 hours a day 7 days a week. Each person is different, and we all have the right to choose, what works best for us. Free Will… I am a “Thriver” and I choose this lifestyle because it does work for me…
Stephanie says
Just a bit of information to everyone who is reading this review-Thrive isn’t a weight loss product. It’s not marketed as one. And the patches alone won’t do anything for you. It’s a nutritional system made up of three basic products that work together. The “patch” is only 1/3 of the total system. Just a little FYI for people who are seriously doing their research.
Joe says
Stephanie, the Thrive patch package says “weight management.” That implies weight loss. Thrive W packaging also says “weight management” too.
When you say “nutritional system” what exactly does that mean?
JJ says
I disagree. Weight management does not imply loss. I have friends who have a hard time gaining weight. Managing weight does not mean loss, why wouldnt it imply weight gain
Joe says
JJ, I understand what you are saying. I don’t think anyone though is using the Thrive Patch to gain weight. I wonder if saying “weight management” is just vague language to get around having to deal with FDA regulations about what you can and cannot say about dietary supplements?
Maggie says
Nutrition overload Angie Luna?? hahahaha
I’ve never heard of anyone getting a headache from too much nutrition, but maybe that happens when it’s all synthetic. But if you ate “too much” healthy food, would you get a headache from too much nutrition? You wouldn’t, just so you know. Try it.
Liz Parker says
I have been taking this product for about 6 months now. My boyfriend has to. He started to develop a pain in his left arm where he put his patch so he quit wearing it. I too started to develop the pain so I quit. It has been about a month that we stopped wearing the patch and we both still have the sharp pain in our arms. We both can not sleep on that side. Has anyone else had this problem . I am up now cause I can’t sleep on my arm. We are both afraid we may have caused some permeate damage to our muscle. That’s where it hurt’s.
J Deither says
You are supposed to put the patch in a new place every day.
Krista says
I usually don’t comment on stuff like this but I wanted to share my first day experience so other women my size can have an idea of how it might affect them..
I’m 24, I’m about 5’4, I weigh 140 lbs.. I don’t smoke, I drink maybe one can of pop per day. I’m a little overweight for my height, and I do have low energy, I’m on sleeping medication because I’m so tired all the time. I don’t drink coffee, ever.
So I got a 5 day pack from my boss. Everyone at work has been using it and they all feel awesome and have been talking about it like crazy. My boss drinks less soda and has lost about 50 lbs. (All the women I work with who are on it are older, and larger than me.)
Anyways, I tried to start my first day yesterday and it went awful. I took my pills, had a shake 40 mins later, and I didn’t even end up putting a patch on because I felt so awful.
My boss did warn me that I’d be jittery the first day. He told me to take 2 pills. I honestly believe I should’ve only taken ONE pill. I stayed in my room all afternoon, I felt high, I felt shaky, I felt like I was going to throw up. I was high off vitamins and it didn’t feel good at all, I didn’t want to be around anyone. The dose was way too high for someone my size and I don’t know why he convinced me to take 2 pills when I had the option of taking 1.
So I know with the amount of vitamins I just shot into my body, I was probably in shock. I wasn’t that surprised.
I’m not giving up on it yet though. Today I’m going to try just the patch by itself and see if I feel any different. I think certain people should wean themselves onto it. I know it’s hard if you only get 3 days to try it, frankly that’s not nearly enough time to try something.
So I guess I’ll be back to let you guys know if the patch alone, for a day, does anything for me!
Hope says
I Thruve and first 3 days usuallyb1 capsule and also recommend starting the mixes after day 3 at 1/4 of the serving. Also it’s recommended that you do the main 3 products (dft is important).
You put a lot of $ into this program so it is imperative that you start the program off according to your body.
It took me 7 days to start noticing the effects of the program. It’s now been almost a month.
I can tell you that I’ve been very sickly and overweight for a long time and I can’t tell you how shocked I am that Thrive really does do what it states (for me).
I can’t attest for everyone but for me, however; it has helped me with chronic pain, sleep (restful sleep finally at night – so wonderful!) and also I don’t nap anymore! I actually have energy for the first time since I was a kid! Just incredible and an answer to my prayers!!
One thing though:
DO NOT BUY FROM ANYWHERE/ANYONE WHO IS NOT A PROMOTER (real distributer) BECAUSE ANYWHERE ELSE YOU GET IT, IS NOT FROM THE COMPANY – SO YOU COULD BE PUTTING WHO KNOWS WHAT INTO YOUR BODY.
wtag says
Everyone’s body is so different. I started thriving due to high blood pressure, getting dizzy on ladders or bending over, no energy or want to move. I started low carbing and thriving. Played with all of it. Big difference for me! I am not a promoter by the way. But I have lost 40 lbs to my goal weight, I can climb ladders, bend over, sleep, relax, do my chores all in feeling healthy, energetic and great attitude. I am 67. My best findings with Thrive is 2 boost a day, 2 men pills and the patch. I am a happy camper.
Holly says
An extremely important question to ask…..Does thrive have third party verification and double blind placebo clinical research to show that it is not only effective, but safe? It’s cncentrated fruits and vegetables with proven research for me ??
Tracy W. says
Look up the ingredient synepherine. This is the reason you were shaky.
Kathy says
So todays is my first time using thrive and the 3 day sample. I have tried everything in my life practically and I used to actually sell for a health company years ago and so I kind of had a little more knowledge than people who’ve never tried anything I will say I did the whole thing the first day of the capsules and shake and the patch I am jittery for sure.
I’m not a coffee drinker normally or caffeine person which is probably why but being in the midst of being diagnosed between fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome for The Last 5 Years I can barely get out of bed every day no motivation to take care of anything it’s just my life is going down the toilet so I’m willing to try anything at this point and I guess we’ll see what happens.
I metabolize things extremely fast so medications or anything do not take very long for me to be affected sometimes as short as 24 to 48 hours so I will let you know what happens at the end of the three days.
Sally says
do you have an update for us?
Sabrina says
How did your free trial go?
Holly says
Kathy as someone who also battles autoimmune disease it is important to understand first that ALL disease is rooted in inflammation. Therefore we must naturally bring down the body’s inflammation and oxidative stress through nutrition. I would be happy to help guide you in that direction. Take care of yourself
Keri says
My daughter suffers crazy from auto immune disease and I would love to chat if you have any input she is trying some thrive capsules for energy I read the black patch and thought maybe that would be good? The nutrients she needs all day for energy and not sure about the shake with her milk we are starting table spoon at a time but we introduce one product at a time try one thing at a time I do know she needs to consume more fats in her diet