Update 12/6/22. At one time, Anatabloc was a SUPER popular anti-inflammation supplement. It was sold online and at GNC and elsewhere. It was touted to help reduce pain, help joints and arthritis pain, and reduce chronic inflammation. Anatabloc was unique. It contained an ingredient not found in any other supplement I've EVER seen in over 20 years of investigation. This unique ingredient also contributed to its own downfall. In this unbiased, updated review, I reveal everything you need to know about Anatabloc, from its rise – and fall – to the research and proof and the company which made it. I'll also shed light on other anatabloc supplements too.
What Is Anatabloc
Before we talk about Anatabloc (sometimes misspelled Anatablock), I need to tell you about Anatabine (also called anatabine citrate). Anatabine is the active ingredient in Anatabloc. Anatabine is a chemical found in
- eggplants
- potatoes
- green tomatoes
as well as tobacco and tobacco smoke (remember this).
Chemically, anatabine “looks” like nicotine. Because of this, it was also used some anti-smoking supplements. Anatabine has a longer half life than nicotine, so it stays in the body longer. That's why it was thought it might help people quit smoking.
How Does Anatabloc Work?
Here is the way Anatabloc was supposed to reduce chronic inflammation:
1. Anatabine enters the cells of the body where it…
2. Deactivates a protein called NFkB.
3. When NFkB is deactivated, it can't enter the nucleus of the cell (the brain center of the cell) to cause excessive cellular inflammation.
Inflammation is thought to play a role in MANY diseases, such as:
and many others.
So, if Anabloc worked, it might have disease-modifying benefits. If you read the comments below, you will see some people have said some pretty amazing things too.
Anatabloc Ingredients
Anatabloc contains these ingredients
Anatabine | 1 mg |
Vitamin A | 500 IU |
Vitamin D3 | 40 IU |
This review will focus only on Anatabine because this is “secret sauce” in Anatabloc.
Other Ingredients
These other ingredients are also found in this supplement: Mannitol, natural and artificial mint flavors, sucralose, silicon dioxide, stearic acid, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, magnesium stearate, titanium dioxide (color), natural glaze, methylparaben, propylparaben, triethyl citrate, citric acid, BHT, mono and diglycerides, and polysorbate 80
These ingredients played no role in the results or benefits of Anatabloc.
Anatabloc Research
When this review was originally created, the proof for Anatabloc was mostly on lab animals. There is now human proof. This review will focus only on human research. Much of the research is on Anatabine, which is an active ingredient in Anatabloc. Still, proof for anatabine is proof for Antabloc.
Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals (more on them below) supports and plays a role in much of the research.
Studies On Anatabloc
In one report, researchers in the US gave Anatabloc or a placebo to 146 people with Hashimoto's disease – the most common form of hypothyroidism. People were given 9-24 mg of anatabine in the form of lozenges. Those taking Anatabloc saw a significant reduction in thyroid autoantibodies.
Some people saw over a 20% decrease in thyroid autoantibodies. This means better working thyroid glands.
One small study (10 people) noted a face cream containing anatabine improved skin appearance, reducing redness and blotchy skin appearance. This does make some sense. Niacin, which looks a little bit like anatabine has been used in skin creams for years.
Niacin is also VERY popular in the anti-aging world. See the Niagen review for more on this.
Anatabine cigarettes have been shown to reduce nicotine levels in smokers significantly. This study reflects the interest in using anatabine to help people quit smoking.
Because inflammation follows exercise, researchers were interested in seeing if anatabine would reduce inflammation after people worked out. In this study, 18 men were given either a placebo or 6-12 mg of anatabine per day for 10 days. They also performed an intense exercise program.
Unfortunately, this noted anatabine did not reduce pain, or swelling or help muscle strength. This is noteworthy, given TV commercials featuring pro golfers John Isner and Fred Couples.
In another exercise study, researchers gave Anatabloc or a placebo to 17 men. The dosage of Anatabloc used was 6-12 mg. While these researchers saw that Anatabloc did not reduce exercise-induced muscle damage, it did appear to reduce markers of inflammation such as C reactive protein (CRP). That is interesting.
Preliminary research suggests anatabine activates NFR2, a substance that raises naturally produced antioxidant defenses such as superoxide dismutase (SOD). This is at the heart of some proposed anti-aging supplements, such as Protandim and PB125.
There are also several lab animals and test-tube studies involving Anatabloc/anatabine. I won't cover them here because we are people and not mice, rats or test tubes.
Summary Of Anatabloc Research
Here is a summary of the Anatabloc human research:
- Anatabine reduced thyroid antibodies in people with hypothyroidism
- Anatabine lowers nicotine levels in smokers
- Anatibine did not reduce muscle damage, pain, or swelling but may lower CPR levels
Anatabloc Questions
Let's now answer some common questions people have asked me about this supplement.
Can Anatabloc help muscle soreness?
Muscle soreness after exercise (DOMS) is very common. Currently, the proof seems to show Anatabloc doesn't reduce muscle soreness, swelling or muscle damage. It may reduce a blood test marker of inflammation called CRP. I think we need more exercise research.
Can Anatabloc Help Concussions?
There is brain inflammation when someone gets a concussion. But there is no proof that taking Anatabloc:
- reduces the risk of getting a concussion
- improves recovery time after getting a concussion
- reduces brain damage from concussions
I cannot find any research involving anatabine and concussions.
In December 2013, the FDA sent a warning letter to Star Scientific – makers of Anatabloc – telling them to remove references on their websites which gave people the impression the supplement might help concussions and other forms of traumatic brain injuries (TBI).
For more on concussions and TBI see these reviews:
Can Anatabloc Help Multiple Sclerosis?
The proof that Anatabloc can help MS is in its infancy. There is some mouse evidence it may help, but no human studies have been conducted yet.
What About Anataboc and Weight Loss?
Websites might discuss how anatabine/Anatabloc can help people lose weight or reduce weight gain, which sometimes happens when people quit smoking. But there is no good proof for this. No study has looked at reducing gaining weight after quitting smoking.
What is CigRx?
This is the anti-smoking product Star Scientific was developing before it began researching anatabine for arthritis pain and other health problems. CigRx contains anatabine too.
Anatabloc Dosage
The general recommendation is to take 2 lozenges per day. Do not use more than 6 lozenges per day. Another dosage recommendations= take your body weight into consideration. Here the Anatabloc dosages would be:
- 100-120 lbs: 2 lozenges 3x per day
- 121-170lbs: 2 lozenges 4x per day
- 171-220lbs: 2 lozenges 5x per day
- over 220lbs: 2 lozenges 6x per day
I've never seen this dosage regimen used in human studies. So, I'm not sure how accurate this is.
Who Makes Anatabloc?
Anatabloc is a product of a company called Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals. Another name for this company is Star Scientific. Star Scientific was the original name of the company. When the research changed directions from looking at Anatabine as a cure for smoking to helping arthritis pain, the company changed its name to Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals.
The phone number for the company was 800-778-2031. The company website was Anatabloc.com (the website no longer works). When this review was originally created, the Better Business Bureau listed the company address as 4470 Cox Rd Ste 110, Glen Allen, VA 23060.
There is also a connection to another company called the RosKamp Institute, located in Florida. Some of the research on Anatabloc has been conducted by this company too.
The company has since filed for bankruptcy and is no longer making Anatabloc supplements.
Should I Invest In Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals?
Star Scientific formally changed its name to Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals in 2014. Its stock symbol is RCPI. It's a publicly traded company. Regardless of what you invest in, do your homework.
Be careful with “gurus” who talk stocks up on websites, as you don't always know who you are dealing with. Sometimes unscrupulous people say things about a company to create interest so they can pump the stock price up so they can dump it for a profit. This trick is sometimes called “pump and dump.” Unless you’re an investing pro (think Warren Buffett), I recommend you talk to a financial advisor before risking any money.
Anatabloc And The FDA
Many people think the FDA does not regulate supplements. Anatabloc is proof it does. Almost from the start, the FDA claimed anatabine contained a new dietary ingredient (NDI). A new dietary ingredient is any substance that was not sold as a supplement before 1994.
Products containing new dietary ingredients need to prove to the FDA they are safe. There is also the issue that anatabine is found in tobacco. Tobacco cannot be called a dietary supplement. I think this may also have played a role in the demise of Anatabloc.
Rock Creek pharmaceuticals state that because anatabine is found in things like peppers and eggplants, it is not new and can be sold as a supplement. In the end, the FDA won, and Rock Creek stopped making Anatabloc.
Calls To Bring Back The Sale Of Anatabloc
Problems with the FDA have not stopped people from hoping for the return of Anatabloc.
This has not stopped people who loved Anatabloc from continuing to hold out hope. Former customers have launched a petition at Change.org to petition the FDA to reverse their decision and let Anatabloc be sold again.
They created the website BringBackAnatabloc.org where you can share your testimony of how the supplement helped you, sign an FDA petition to bring Anatabloc back, and read news about the supplement.
How To Buy Anatabloc: Can You Still Purchase It?
While this supplement was once VERY popular and sold at GNC and other stores, it is no longer permitted to be sold in the US. The FDA forced Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals to stop the production of Anatabloc.
Anatabloc Supplements
While Anatabloc is no longer able to be purchased in the US, I did notice other companies selling supplements said to contain anatabine.
One such company is HydraPharm (PredatorNutrition.com). They sell a supplement literally called “Anatablok” which they say contains “pure anatabine.” Predator Nutrition is not based in the US. I am not sure if they are allowed to ship their Anatablok supplement to the US.
The supplement is marked as an anti-inflammatory nootropic (brain enhancer) used to support memory and attention.
The Va Governor Controversy
As if things could not get worse, Rock Creek Pharm found itself at the center of a very public controversy involving the former Virginia governor, Robert McDonnell, and his wife. It's alleged Rock Creek gave $165,000 in gifts to the former Va governor and his wife in exchange for helping Rock Creek's development of Anatabloc.
Anatabloc Side Effects
Anatabloc is probably safe for healthy people, at least for short-term use. Human research shows no significant negative side effects. Mild to moderate side effects reported have included:
- Dizziness
- Nausea
- Headache
- Tingling feelings
- Insomnia
In the comments section below, one person reported feelings of depression. This has not been observed in clinical studies.
Does Anatabloc Work?
Despite the problems with the FDA, several people swore Anatabloc worked. I never experimented with it when it was being sold and the only person I knew who did try it told me it did not reduce his pain. Pain is complicated and its possible others may have had better results.
Unfortunately, Anatabolc supplements are no longer available in the US. While, in the past, I have been rather hard on this supplement and Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals, I was sad it was taken off the market. I am happy to see some human research on anatabine, look forward to more and hope one day to see it sold once again.
Judith, it really conflicts me as it worked for 4 months and stopped. I agree that the media who knock it, have no clue that it can work…..I won’t buy it if it’s a script, and even thou I’m taking it now, it doesn’t seem to be helping….I deal with a lot of messy inflammation from a hip replacement 2010 and so have no clue why it stopped working in my body.
I certainly AGREE on corruption everywhere….this supplement left me with ???? from day 1, I was nagged by a couple people to get with it….it worked for my issues for about 4 months and stopped….granted I was doing acupuncture at the same time, so maybe the combination…..hard to know….but I felt great for 4 months in early 2013…. Then it stopped working…..
I’m on it again since I got a deal I could afford but sadly dealing with the sweetener…..
I’ve always THOUGHT about the nightshade issue….nightshades create inflammation….so it’s a strange supplement in many ways re: nightshade….
So much mystery behind it really….I have too much distrust about it. I still watch the Rock Creek news but this latest batch I take is not doing much if anything
Thank you for taking the time to do so much searching, research, reading and then posting everything you do. And posted coherently. That can hard sometimes when there’s either not quite enough information or too much.
As a disabled person on a very restricted diet, part of that diet being anti-inflammatory, I find the whole idea of Anatabloc having anti-inflammatory properties. Potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, any and all nightshades (and that includes eggplant and tobacco) are not to be eaten on an anti-inflammatory diet.
You can, but you should be aware that eating any of those things, depending on the condition, will cause a flare. Think RA, fibromylagia, sciatica – especially when its a combination of “regular” sciatica caused by disk problems and piriformis syndrome.
Oh, and former Governor McDonnell of Virginia and his wife were both convicted today of fraud, bribery charges, and corruption and will be going to jail.
Mr. Williams, a CEO of “a company” got immunity in return for being a main witness. It’s a very sad, disturbing case. Lives ruined over a supplement that probably does nothing but empty your wallet and 2 people going to prison for $205,000.
That tells me that this company and this product is a complete sham. When you need to bribe and pay off someone in a position of power so a product from your company will get state! promotion, there’s no way I’d want to touch anything made by them.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-virginia-gov-mcdonnell-found-guilty-corruption-case-n195941
Wen, thanks for your nice words and for the update on the McDonald trial. Your are the first to tell me about this.
I had several problems, most I didn’t know about. Anatabloc helped them all. The McDonald trial, unimportant, its politics n they just got caught.
Interesting,
Politics as usual, they all have their hand out for favors, no different here, other than they got caught. You think Harry Reid hasn’t gotten to be a multi-millionaire because of under the table deals, come on, the list is long on those who would be charged with bribes if caught.
What about the FDA, EPA, IRS ans SEC who let Madoff run the largest ponzi for years even though they were tipped off on scam years before. they are all guilty of same thing, taking bribes under the table, so your choice of who you will do business with would eliminate 70% of companies out there.
Drug compaines and big oil have been greasing political wheels in goverment since the beginning of time, so choose carefully who you do business with, you might be surprised how common bribes are in politics.
Taswell ——–
Thanks for your honest post. I couldn’t agree with you more. Anatabloc / Anatabine is a game changer for me and for many, many people and it would be a shame to have the Virgina, Washington, Republican/Dems, FDA, politics, etc. get in the way of a molecule that can improve the lives of maybe millions of people and save the lives of numerous people lucky enough to be able to take Anatabloc, not to mention reducing health care costs for millions of people.
So, in all due respects to free speech, I am getting tired of the sour grapes folks who have never tried Anatabloc trashing the product. Or those people, for whom Anatabloc was not beneficial, trashing the product as a scam.
Stay turned and stay close to Rock Creek Pharmaceutical because IMHO, given enough time, Anatabine will be/is a game changing health blockbuster.
Everyone have a great healthy day.
Allan,
I agree with you and Taswell. I have been using Anatabloc and have found it hugely helpful for my thyroid and muscle ache problems. I’m really hopeful that someone will come out with a new anatabine product…in fact, I recall that Rock Creek had been working on getting Anatabloc approved as a pharmaceutical (which would probably make it even more expensive, but at least on the market).
I find it really annoying to hear all of the news people now condescendingly speak of Anatabloc as a food supplement in terms that imply that it’s a “snake oil”.
GNC owns Lucky Vitamin and it’s gone from both these locations.
Someone said you can go to the Rock Creek site and still buy it, how true that is I don’t know.
This has BEEN SO Bizarre, the whole whole scenerio…..
Will it come back, anyone’s guess and wonderment.
That’s a real shock. I hadn’t seen the article. Here’s a link to the article in USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/08/11/rock-creek-suspends-sales/13926391/
there was an article yesterday that the company will stop making antabloc. i just started using the pills. what can i use to replace the antabloc? gnc took it off their website. and they took it off the shelves. i have not read all these posts (so many..no little time right now) so i do not know if this topic was covered.
Kay, I’m not sure what you can do for the moment. It may still be on eBay. Maybe Craigslist for a while too. I think this is only temporary but how long it will last I don’t know.
I had 4 great months on anatabloc Jan-April 2013, then it stopped working….so I backed down with as I didn’t want to take more than 8 tabs per day, plus the COST.
I was always suspecious of this company from Day 1 and then it all unfolded with Williams and the gov, etc…I know MSNBC focuses on this a lot of the months.
I’m back on Anatabloc as I got a good deal on price, going on over 2 months and no feeling like I had in 2013….probably won’t do it again when my stock is gone.
Amazon was a big seller of it, but they no longer offer it. ummmmm
I deal with OA, fibro and a mess from a hip replacement…talk about Inflammation.
Joe. Thanks for your research on this product on the front end. Your questions caused me to look into things further and to seriously question the product despite knowing two people who touted its effectiveness. (And no, one of them was not gov McDonnell’s wife).
Today’s article in the Richmond times dispatch outlining the history of the supplement and the fact the makers are pulling it off the market lend credence to the cautionary approach you took on dissecting the hype around the supplement. And they did not really focus on gov McDonnell’s trial interestingly enough.
Bottom line, while snake oil may have some benefits to help some people, that doesn’t mean it’s not hurting people nor wasting their money. Buyer beware! Thanks Joe!
Ed, thanks for your words and for the heads up on the Richmond Times Dispatch article. It’s a good read and here it is for those like me who missed it :
http://www.timesdispatch.com/business/local/companies/anatomy-of-anatabloc/article_17d46e14-e115-58ea-a491-b71b5d72a839.html
Ive been keeping tabs on the Gov McDonnell /anatabloc issue also. Its been interesting to say the least. I was glad that the Richmond Times reporter kept the focus on Anatabloc rather than the VA governor.
Now HOW do we get rid of STIFFNESS…The pain issue isn’t my nasty issue, but STIFFNESS is and I’m feeling some “relief” with acupuncture…doing my 6th session tomorrow…I’ll access things after my 10th or 15th session. Considering chinese medicine for stiffness, looking at that now.
I’ve tried EVERY herb immaginable and do take Ibuprofen and ice and heat…
I KNOW those who do knee surgeries, deal with major stiffness.
I also take daily collagen and silica which is in the Diatamous Earth I’ve used off and on for yrs…back on it.
Roseann, you know to dilute ACV, I use a good splash of it daily in my MSM, Diatamouse Earth and Collagen mixture in a 8 oz glass of “clean” water….chug it down in a couple chugs…all major supermarkets are carrying high ph waters, you must have vons, etc. up there…ralphs etc. I add a smidge of stevia to my ACV drink too….keeps it tolerable..
Roseann, ALL MARKETS CARRY ALKALINE WATER NOW, some markets carry more. I just bought a new supply
yesterday at our bristol farms, the water was on a special price. Fiji and Volvic are wonderful high alkaline waters. I buy them a lot…Trader Joe’s carry Fiji and a couple other higher alkaline waters…
I also buy ph drops called Body Rescue and add some drops to my spring water, coffee and other foods that are higher acid. Get them from swansons, vitacost, iherb…they all carry this product to alkalize your food/water.
Remember too, tomatoes are very high in acid. Not as much acid when cooked, and I add drops to any tomatoe sauce I use. Baking soda adds alklaine too. Lemon juice too and lime juice…fresh of course.
If you read some of the charts, you will see water is acidic, distilled water the most as it’s essentially dead water, no minerals, etc.
You know whats strange but works for me is a shot of apple cider vinegar every day. I dont know the science behind it but its like fighting fire with fire so perhaps your body then produces less acid or maybe it just balances out my PH levels.
But honestly it cured my chronic heartburn problem and i honestly think the vinegar treatment has cured my chronic tendinitis problem in my knees and ankles and my recovery time seems allot better.
You could say placebo effect but i would definitely say otherwise. It works much better for me then anatabloc without the side effects.
Rj I’ve heard stuff about Apple cider vinegar but have not yet taken a close look at it. I’m glad it’s helped you though.
Thanks, Joy, for all the sources for alkaline water and the pH drops. We have Trader Joe’s in Stockton, so I’ll check out the Fiji water. We don’t have anywhere near the good stores you have!
Thanks, RJ, about apple cider vinegar. I have some in my refrigerator right now, but the smell makes me too sick to want to drink it! I’ll have to tough up. My Dad swears by apple cider vinegar, and he is 84 and pretty healthy and has taken it for decades. He’s REALLY healthy, except that his roofing business wrecked his knees.
Get the unfiltered unpasteurized with the so called “mother” in it, that is suppose to be the magic elixir. Plus it tastes better, i buy the Braggs brand it seems to be the easiest to swallow. Mix with Juice or water and it goes down easier. I never drink it straight, that would cause an instant gag reflect.
Hi RJ and Joy, Joy-no Vons close by or in our city. It is a different world up here. Both of you, thanks for the ideas to make it less disgusting.
RJ, I’ll check Braggs brand this afternoon when I order the Collagen brand that Joy recommended to me a while back-I’m running out.
I love how helpful most of the people are on Joe’s site-starting with Joe. We all want to look out and help our fellow sufferers and people who seek better health.
Joy, Sacramento, which is 40 miles north of us, probably has much better stores, but my right shoulder is ALL messed up and needs surgery, so even driving 80 miles round trip is more than my should will allow right now.
RJ, I checked the bottle I have in the refrigerator, and it is the very same Bragg’s with the “mother”, as you described! OK, I’ll bite the bullet, dilute it, and chug it down today!
One more comment, I’ve taken MANY forms of turmeric/curcumin and taking a new form right now but can’t say I have gotten much help with this herb…be careful as it can cause stomach irritations. I take DGL daily, for years now, to help keep stomach healthy, it’s called the stomach lining tamer….it’s a supplement.
And YES, acid foods are way worse for our joints…so work on keeping as alakaine as possible…I buy ALL my alkaline drinking water … no fluoridated water for this lady, it does more joint damage for sure….another fraud upon the people…this fluoride mess in our public waters…. Don’t get me started, I could go on and on with this Toxin.
You can google: alkaline/acidic food charts….I’ve read them many many times…
Thanks, Joy, for another suggestion for me to try-alkaline/acid food charts. Where do you buy alkaline water? I’ve heard good things about it, but I’ve also heard that the acid in our stomachs and the acid-base regulatory systems in our bodies would inactivate the alkaline water. It’s worth a try.
It was me who got great relief for 4 months, and then “A” stopped working….why I do not know…maybe just other “drugs” they stop working too. But, I can truthfully say, I was like a newborn person for about 4 months…..I’m back on “A” as I got a good deal on 3 months worth supply, but NO great feeling like the first time.
I deal with OA joint issues everywhere buy my face….only way to know if it will work is give it a try. The company has gone thru a big change/turnover, so don’t know where “A” will all unfold out there…..
Wow! I’ve probably been reading for an hour and still only half way through! Very interesting and great research!
I just got a little sample of Anatabloc and couldn’t read the tiny print, so went on the website to find out how many to take. I couldn’t find anything about the product on the website except how to order it so went to Supplement Geek next. Wow! Lots of info. and very well written!
My question -there’s quite a few who seem to have taken it for 4 months and then it quit working. Any idea why? And has anyone heard of VitalzymXe?
Expensive, but it definitely works for arthritis. Also, an aside- I had ulcerative colitis and pancreatitis and was hospitalized for 10 days and given no food- ( fed by pic line to the heart).
Afterwards took a drug for a while to stop the bleeding which I think caused my arthritis. I am free from both pancreatitis and ulcers but still have the arthritis. I eat well,-vegetables, fruits, fish, no wheat , but can’t get rid of the arthritis.
Also heard from a guest that Turmeric helps. Any ideas? Has anyone heard that acidic foods are not good for arthritis sufferers?Thanks
Nan, glad you are having fun reading all the comments!
I tried to look up “VitalzymXe.” did you mean Vitalzym? thats what showed up when I looked for the product you listed.
I’ve covered tumeric in other reviews. Here is a link to all the reviews of products that contained tumeric
http://supplementclarity.com/search/?cx=partner-pub-0707723834600430%3A3044948339&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=tumeric&sa=Search&siteurl=supplementclarity.com%2F&ref=supplementclarity.com%2Fwp-admin%2Fedit-comments.php%3Fcomment_status%3Dmoderated&ss=1709j641999j9
That’s a nice B & B you have 🙂
VitalzymXe, from http://www.worldnutrition.info is a much stronger version for arthritis and other issues and only available through a chiropractor or nutritionist unfortunately. It has done wonderful things for me- (pain-free), but definitely not cheap! It has a proprietary enzyme blend -324 mg which includes bromelain, papain, rutin, amylease, protease, lipase, serrapeptase, ( the best part)m and arnia extract. I used to bite my fingers the pain was so awful! Now just stiff but no pain!
Nan, I looked up VitalzymeXE on their site. the ingredients look similar to Vitalzyme except the XE version has more milligrams per 3 capsules (168 mg vs 324 mg for the xe version). I did find the regular Vitalzyme on Amazon if that helps anyone. People could always just take more of the original version I’d guess if they dont want to buy from a health care professional.
Glad it still works for many, as I’ve said here many times, I had great results for 4 months Jan-April 2013 and then Anatabloc stopped working….my TPO’s numbers came way down as well…..that was taking 8 per day….
Now if the product was 1/2 the cost it is, good chance I’d continue with it and see if it helps more….and again then there is the antics of the company.
Hi Joe.
I just wanted to share with you and others reading my blood test results received just today from my doctor’s office. For additional context, last week I went in for my annual wellness exam and when my GP walked into the examining room I whipped out my 20ct dispenser of Anatabloc (I refill them myself using the 300ct bottles), placed it on the counter and said ‘I’ve been taking 8 – 10 per day of this stuff for 2 1/2 years’ now Doc.
He took it up and began writing furiously in my chart. Now this is my same GP I have had for 20yrs or more and I’ve told him about Anatabloc at the last 2 annual exams whereupon he also wrote it in my chart. He made no further comment about it and went about his business of examination.
The guy is good and I respect him – even though I could never get anything stronger than tylenol out of him back in the days episodic excruciating lower back pain and shoulder pain.
I once saw him for chest pains thinking it was my heart, he prescribed nexium and cured my heartburn. I only took it a few days once I understood what was going on and how to fix the heartburn.
I asked the Doc to include hsCRP in my blood tests and that I would pay out of pocket for any and all additional tests he feels would give him the best exam data.
So he included Thyroid, Pancreas, Kidney, and Liver centric blood tests.
The results came back with every last test right in the middle of the healthy ranges as indicated for each type of test.
My hsCRP (the one I was most interested in because it is a direct measurement of systemic inflammation) measured 0.47mg/dL . All others, as I said were in range and will have to look up some online as I do not recognize them or know what they all mean. But they are all in range except for total cholesterol which is 220 but the ratio number is in an excellent range because HDL measured high at 67.
Cholesterol does not worry me one bit with, imo, effectively zero chronic low level inflammation in my body as evidenced by the CRP test results.
Cheers and Happy Memorial Day Weekend everyone
Milk L, thanks for the update. Just curious, What was your hscrp before starting anatabloc?
Joe,
My CRP levels hadn’t been measured before and honestly I wasn’t familiar with test before Anatabloc.
I first learned about C-Reactive Protein is a measure of systemic inflammation when I started supplementing with Anatabloc and read up on it and chronic inflammation in general. I did request the test from my doctor early on after starting Anatabloc but he wouldn’t do it saying in effect unless I show up to his office complaining of chest pains or other indications of heart trouble the insurance company wouldn’t pay for it. So I let it go. There was no way I was going to fake some illness and have a non existent illness entered on my chart so I decided to pay out of pocket at my next annual for that specific test.
I once used health check usa to get a complete blood analysis before starting my 25yr old daughter on Anatabloc for her psoriasis (psoriasis being a perfect fit since it is strictly an inflammatory disease of the skin). CRP results were < 1 then too I remember.
So my first CRP test was about 18 months in to taking Anatabloc. CRP measured 0.67mg/dL and now of course it is slightly lower than that.
BTW, unbeknownst to me my daughter suffered from psoriasis for 12 years or so. Actually I knew she had some sort of skin condition or rash though I never saw it, it was something her and her mother dealt with. I only heard of the cost of the prescriptions drugs and shampoos, they had tried everything, spent a lot of money, with little success.
It hit home for me while surfing for info on NFkB (inflammation transcription factor) that landed me on a psoriasis web site with pictures. OMG it's a horrible condition. Long story short, it took 9 months to a year but 10 year old lesions are gone now. She says she is not cured and gets some flare ups but they are small and eventually go away. She takes Anatabloc daily though 'not always'. Those are real results Joe.
I’ve just had a rather interesting development. I had to have a minor surgical procedure done last week and I either had an allergic reaction to the plastic in the thing they use to hold your mouth open during surgery (I had anesthesia but inasmuch as my oxygen utilization was 99%, they decided not to intubate me, just keep my mouth open and tongue out of the way, etc.) or I had a reaction to one of the drugs they gave me, but it triggered a terrible sore throat and then postnasal drip, which wouldn’t stop.
I was gargling with salt water and cayenne pepper, using my neti pot, taking Mucinex, etc. and I just couldn’t stop it and have been feeling terrible what with the deep coughing, etc. and unable to sleep. I took my regular dose of Anatabloc in the morning and then another dose around 3PM.
I guess I must have registered feeling better after taking it before but somehow because of my foggy brain this past week, it didn’t REALLY register until I was sitting at the computer and really being conscious of my nose feeling clearer and my head not hurting so much.
It felt as if someone had turned off a water tap suddenly. Then it dawned on me that the Anatabloc was offsetting the inflammation I’ve been having.
Judith, I am glad you are feeling better and came through surgery OK 🙂
I never liked the push to use Anatabloc and especially by those who own stock in the company…..A worked for me for 4 great months and stopped working.
Now meds/supps can stop working, people keep telling me to take more than the 8 I took for 4 months….I don’t want to take more….if the “new” company lowers the price to like $40/bottle maybe I’ll give it a try again…..
So, it’s a damn shame that it stopped working and I have no clue why except my body may have become immune to it…don’t know….but I would be willing to try again, as often when people take breaks from supps, etc. and then start again, they can work….. Our bodies are so unique….
And I know there are many who claimed it did not work for them….for whatever reason.
Hi Joe,
Have you seen Star Scientific’s 3/20/14 webcast presented in part (mostly) by Dr. Michael Mullan? It has some good scientific background on anatabine (active ingredient in Anatabloc).
MikeL, I did not see it but will look for it. Mike, got a question. I’ve noticed that you post comments here using different names. You’ve posted comments as:
Tom S
MikeL
Vin
Vince
Why do you use different names here?
Fair question as it appears I have mixed up my email addresses and online names.
I guess I didn’t want it to appear to be overly posting about this product but apparently that ship has since sailed. I am a daily user still and I’m convinced it is different from anything we have ever seen or taken before and just want people to know about it. I will stick with Mike L. on future posts. That is if you allow me.
MikeL, We all can be as anonymous as we like but keep in mind that others reading posts may be confused at who is saying what. Giving yourself different names in different posts raises a red flag for me esp in light of the fact that several people – likely stock holders in Star Scientific have been trying to get details posted about various star scientific meetings and progress updates over the last several weeks. I know star scientific has been trying to raise money to keep their business going. Since most people who come here are not stock holders of the company, I want to refrain from posting time-sensitive meeting details that most people would not be interested in. Your are still welcome to share your thoughts about Anatabloc.
With all due respects Joe, as a long time benefactor of taking Anatabloc and consequently becoming a Star ( soon to become Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals, Inc.[RCPI]) stockholder, information about developments at the company, meeting dates, developing efforts toward NDAs with the FDA, research plans, management changes, funding developments, FDA letter & Co. responses, etc. are much more relevant to understanding Anatabloc than the numerous columns of gibberish that you allowed to be posted about holistic Drs., holistic treatments of this and that and one particular poster’s personal aches & pains constantly getting posted; all of which basically had little or no connection to understanding the benefits of Anatabine / Anatabloc.
Just sayin’.
Allan, with respect, no its not because this is a site predominantly about the science of supplements not about stocks. Almost from the moment I wrote my anatabloc review, some star stock holders have been trying to post information about how great the company is. this I believe is in an attempt to get people to buy the stock and in doing so make them money. I wont allow that. When people post stuff about what worked for them, they are doing so out of no potential monetary gain to them. That is very different than what some stock investors try to post.
Joe,
I like a little anonymity and simply forgot which names I had been using. If this comments i/f required login it would have helped me to keep them straight.
Here’s the link to the wedbcast I was referring to. You must admit the science behind anatabine presented by Star Scientific is more than we’re used to seeing about other nutraceuticals from the manufacturers .
videonewswire.com/event.asp?id=98170
MikeL, I have reviewed all of the research. yes Anatabloc has research -and that’s good – but Id like to see more people research done.
MikeL,, Would you happen to have the hyperlink so that I could look at it? I tried to google it but couldn’t find it. Thanks.
Judith,
I just checked and the link to view is still available at starscientific.com/ right below the first paragraph is a Click Here button.
I thought the science explanation was very interesting and the mice experiments with anatabloc are fascinating. Something going on there more than just anti-inflammation it would appear based on the experiments presented.
Thanks, MikeL
I did find it very interesting. I also watched a lot of the business/FDA approval section. I’m a little concerned about that. As expensive as Anatabloc is as a food additive, I’m sure it’s going to be extremely expensive if approved by the FDA as a drug.
I’ve been taking it for my Hashimoto’s and it has been working very well. My antibodies are down to zero.
Judith,
That’s awesome news about your anti bodies going back to normal. Is that that a breakthrough for you? A one person trial that Joe and the medical community calls anecdotal. Who cares what they say, right? I’m happy for you.
If I understood the doctor correctly they plan a different version of the anatabine for FDA drug approval that should not effect Anatabloc. I’m with you though that the price has got to come down. I’m hoping it does and in the meantime I reconcile the expense in my mind by not having to buy symptom relievers anymore.
MikeL, I didn’t say anything regarding to what Judith said so why the dig against me? Since you brought me into this, what judith is saying is not a “trial” but rather a testimony. I’ve always been intrigued by Anatabloc and thyroid disorders and hope to see more research in this area.
Judith, did you have your auto-antibodies measured before taking anatabloc? I think you mentioned you did previously but I forget.
Joe,
My statement re anecdotal was in no way a dig directed at you. My comment was just poorly constructed. What I meant was scientists and experienced researchers like yourself will discount testimonials like mine and Judith’s out of hand because we cannot back it up with human study results… yet imo.
I think you do a great service to those of us interested in supplements and better health.
Best regards.
Joe, regarding having had my antibodies checked prior to starting Anatabloc (there wasn’t a “reply” hyperlink below your message), yes, I had had them checked every 6 months. In addition, I was really feeling uneasy taking the thyroid medication for as long as I had due to things I’ve read about taking thyroid medication for a long time.
Since my concern was with the antibodies attacking the thyroid gland and since the manufacturer of Tirosint has gotten so greedy (it started out at $78 for 84 days, then $86, then $105 and now $205 and the drug plan I’m on won’t pay any part of it until the price goes up to $250) I decided to see how it goes with just the Anatabloc. Frankly, I am sleeping better and my muscle aches have decreased. I’ll continue to have the antibodies checked, of course.
Judith, thanks for that. That is a lot of money to spend on thyroid meds. Ive never heard of it costing that much.
Read this interesting article on diet and inflammation today. Thought others might like to check it out http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/020314p44.shtml
Joe ———
Thanks for the heads up on the article in “Today’s Dietitian” re: diet and inflammation.
The extensive health issues caused by Chronic Inflammation is exactly what Anatabloc is all about. In time, I believe IMHO, that the medical community will better understand the fantastic benefits to us humans of reducing chronic inflammation in our bodies with Anatabine currently available in Anatabloc, without side effects. Big Pharma may slow it down because of the obvious negative financial impact Anatabine could/will have on many of their high dollar drugs, but again, IMHO, I think we’ll get there.
Have a great day and good Anatabloc health to all.
Allan, its possible. we will just have to wait and see what happens.
No, I don’t think I ought to bash Joe — and I didn’t bash Joe. I was disagreeing with him and becoming ultrafrustrated when he kept saying that I should eat a salad daily after I repeatedly told him I DID take a salad daily.
I also objected to his claim that I never showed any evidence of studies indicating that supplements work. I clearly pointed to prestigious journals that reported on studies showing just that.
But what really irks me is that he showed your ad hominem attack on me, and then blamed me for being uncivil. But it matters not, because his behavior prompted me to desist from any further involvement with Supplement Geek.
Good day.
Robert, I didn’t consider Pete’s words an attack on you and I’m sorry if you felt it was. If I remember our discussion I mentioned eating a salad only once – twice at the most and that is because I have your best interest at heart. I will reiterate though that the evidence you showed me were not studies. Regardless of your decision to write back I wish you only success and luck in everything.