Update 7/10/20. Plexus Slim is billed as an “affordable weight management product” that boasts “no ill side effects” based on “extensive clinical research.” Impressive, but does PlexusSlim work or is it a scam? And does it really have no side effects? I was tipped off to Plexus Slim by one of the readers of this website. After looking at its ingredients, I wanted to write a review of Plexus Slim because of the words used to describe the product and because Plexus Slim seemed to have ingredients that I have never heard of before. Let's see what we can discover about this weight loss drink. Also read my review of the Plexus Accelerator Plus (Accelerator +) and Plexus Boost, Plexus ProBio5 and Plexus Hunger Control after you read this, for additional information.
Update: The formula for Plexus Slim was changed a bit since this review was written so also read the review of the new plexus slim formula.
Who Makes Plexus Slim?
According to the Better Business Bureau, the company that makes Plexus Slim – Plexus Worldwide Inc. – was started in 2005 in Arizona. The address of the company is 7440 E. Karen Dr. #400, Scottsdale, AZ 85260.
Update. PlexusWorldWide.com, the company website, now lists this corporate address: 15649 N. Greenway Hayden Loop Scottsdale, AZ 85260. Googling this address shows a large building that says “Plexus Slim” on the outside. That's good.
Update. The Better Business Bureau now lists this address for the company: 9145 E Pima Center Pkwy Scottsdale, AZ 85258-4627
The BBB gives Plexus Slim a rating of “A+” See the BBB file for updates and other information.
To buy Plexus Slim it looks like you either have to buy it from the company or through a PlexusSlim distributor. They call Plexus Slim distributors “Ambassadors“. On the Plexus Slim website, they have a calendar of Plexus Slim events.
These events serve not only to sell Plexus Slim but also to recruit new Ambassadors. Plexus Slim has a multi-level marketing (MLM) aspect to it.
I have no problem with MLM. If the product is reputable, MLM allows people to make an income which can be significant.
Plexus Slim Nutrition Information
In an effort to keep this review up to date, here are the ingredients in Plexus Slim as they appeared in 2016. According to the label shown on the product website, each packet of Plexus Slim has the following nutrition information and ingredients:
| Ingredient | Amount Per Serving | Percent Daily Value |
|---|---|---|
| Calories | 10 calories | |
| Total Carbohydrdate | 3 grams | 1% DV |
| Chromium Polynicotinate | 200 micrograms | 167% DV |
| Plexus Slim Blend (composed of the following) | 530 mg | N/A |
| Garcinia Cambogia Fruit Extract | ||
| Green Coffee Bean Extract | ||
| Alpha Lipoic Acid |
In the table above, N/A means no daily value established.
Each of the ingredients will be summarized below. I will leave in the summaries of the ingredients present in the original plexus slim formula too to help others doing their own research.
See the review of the new plexus slim formula too.
Plexus Slim Ingredients
Polydextrose
This is a type of soluble fiber. In theory, this might help weight loss since it has no calories and is a type of fiber. Polydextrose might cause gas and bloating.
Citric Acid
In some products, citric acid is used as a preservative and to enhance flavor. While it naturally occurs in citrus fruits, its use in foods/ supplements may be from natural or synthetic means.
Beet Root
If Plexus Slim uses the entire beetroot, the fiber content of the beetroot might help foster some weight loss because it adds bulk to the stomach contents. That said, I can't locate any evidence that beetroot helps people lose weight. The product label states the beetroot is to give the product color. Beets do have a red color. Beetroot probably contributes to the pink color of the product.
Beets and beetroot juice have gotten attention from the scientific community because of their ability to raise nitric oxide, a compound that can relax blood vessels, allowing blood to more easily travel through the body. See my review of SuperBeets for more on this topic.
Grape Skin Extract
Grape skin contains phytonutrients such as proanthocyanidins and proanthocyanidins which act as antioxidants. While this is very good, does grape skin extract help people lose weight? Other than having some fiber (which might act as a laxative) I can't find any proof that it does.
Update. I'm told Plexus Slim no longer contains grape skin extract
Lo Han Extract
The scientific name for this ingredient is Siraitia grosvenorii. This is also called “lou han guo” and “monk fruit.” By either name, it's often used as a sweetener. This ingredient, like steveia below, is likely added for flavoring.
Stevia
This is a sweetener. Some supplement companies may call it by another name -“rebaudioside A.”
Stevia is added to many low-calorie foods. In theory, using low calorie (or no-calorie) sweeteners might help weight loss but I'm not sure if this is the answer. There are MANY low-calorie foods and beverages on the US market, yet Americans are not slimmer than they were, say, in the 1980s.
Natural Flavors
They don't tell us what these natural flavors are. To be fair, most companies don't. They don't have to under the law. Regardless, I doubt any of them play a role in weight loss.
Green Coffee Bean
This is also called Chlorogenic Acid. One study published in 2010 noted that chlorogenic acid helped weight loss and increased fat burning when in rats that were fed a high-fat diet (37% of calories from fat).
This is interesting even though it's a rat study. Another rat study also noted that mulberries (which also contain chlorogenic acid) helped the weight loss. But was it the chlorogenic acid – or all the other stuff mulberries?
In one small study 16 overweight people were given either a placebo or different amounts of green coffee extract (which contains chlorogenic acid) at either 700 mg or 1050 mg day for 6 weeks (each person was given each treatment for 6 weeks).
People getting the green coffee extract (both dosage amounts) were shown to have significant reductions in body weight, body mass and percent body fat compared to placebo. The type of green coffee extract used in this study was supplied by Applied Food Sciences Inc.
Retracted
It sounds great BUT, the study has been “retracted.” This means it should not be considered as evidence due to errors with how the study was performed. In the words of the authors, the study was retracted because the authors could not “assure the validity of the data.” Click here to read the retraction.
See the Green Bean Coffee Review for more information.
See the weight loss supplement scam review.
Rosmarinic Acid
This is a plant chemical found in many herbs, including rosemary. This is probably where Rosmarinic Acid gets its name from. Rosmarinic acid has antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. I was unable to find any studies showing that Rosmarinic Acid helps weight loss in humans or animals.
Hydroxycinnamic Acid
This compound is an antioxidant but whether or not it contributes to weight loss needs further study.
Garcinia Cambogia
This was originally called “Citrin K” when I first reviewed Plexus Slim. Garcinia cambogia is found in MANY weight loss supplements because of some research that it might reduce appetite and help weight loss. Right now, I think all anyone can say is maybe it works or maybe it doesn't work.
In this study, 500 mg of garcinia Cambogia did not help people lose weight. I mention this because if this study is correct, then it might take more than 500 mg of garcinia Cambogia if it's going to work. The entire proprietary blend in Plexus Slim adds up to 530 mg. While Garcinia Cambogia is the first ingredient listed – which presumably means it makes up the most of the blend – how much that equates to, I cannot say.
See the Garcinia Cambogia review
Also, read the review of supplements linked to liver failure.
Alpha-lipoic Acid
This is an antioxidant and it helps it turn carbs into energy. It can also help regenerate other antioxidants, which is pretty snazzy.
There are a few studies of alpha-lipoic acid and weight loss. In one study, alpha-lipoic acid was randomly given to 360 obese people for 20 weeks. Half got a placebo and half got alpha-lipoic acid (either 1200 mg/day or 1800 
In another study, 1127 overweight people were given 800 mg of alpha-lipoic acid a day for 4 months. This study noted that alpha-lipoic acid, at the dosage given, helped people lose about 8% of their body weight over 4 months.
So if you were 200 pounds, alpha lipoic acid might help you lose about 200 x .08 = 16 pounds. That is a significant amount in my book.
One possible problem with this study though was that it doesn't appear that there was a placebo group to compare the weight loss too. I was also unable to determine (because I only read the summary of the study) if people combined alpha-lipoic acid with eating fewer calories (I think they might have ).
Alpha-lipoic acid is the last ingredient listed in the proprietary blend. As such, it likely makes up the least of the 530 mg total.
Oxypregnane Steroidal Glycoside
This is a pretty fancy name but you have heard of this stuff before. Oxypregnane steroidal glycoside – is just a fancy way of saying Hoodia! Here is a study that proves that both names mean the same thing.
I think they call it Oxypregnane steroidal glycoside because they are trying to make the product sound different and special. In reality, it's just hoodia Gordonii.
The other fancy name for hoodia is P57AS3 – you have probably seen this listed in other supplements as “P57“.
I've already reviewed hoodia and weight loss. Other supplements that I've reviewed previously that contain hoodia include the
For at least 10 years, hoodia Gordonii has been in more weight loss supplements than you can shake a stick at – but there is no good proof that hoodia supplements help people lose weight.
Study. Researchers gave hoodia or a placebo to 50 overweight people for 2 weeks. The people in the study were allowed to eat as much as they wanted from a menu provided by the researchers. Results: hoodia did not cause any weight loss.
While no serious side effects were reported, researchers did note that people who got hoodia had higher blood pressures and heart rates compared to people who got the placebo. Hoodia also seems to cause elevations in bilirubin and alkaline phosphatase. What caused these changes I do not know.
Update. Plexus slim no longer contains hoodia. See my review on the New Plexus Slim Formula for more info on how it has changed.
Chromium Polynicotinate
Plexus slim contains a type of chromium they call “amino nicotinate”. This is fancy talk for “chromium nicotinate”. (it is now called “chromium polynicotinate on the label).
You may have heard Dr. Oz talk about chromium polynicotinate on TV. I reviewed what Dr Oz had to say about this form of chromium and I am guessing that this is why Plexus Slim includes chromium nicotinate over the sometimes more popular, chromium picolinate.
Chromium may help lower blood sugar levels but as for its effects on weight loss, I am highly skeptical. For more on chromium, see my reviews of chromium weight loss research and chromium polynicotinate.
Blood Sugar Lowering Ingredients
As a quick reference, the following ingredients might reduce blood sugar:
- Alpha-lipoic acid
- Chromium nicotinate (now called chromium polynicotinate)
Fiber Ingredients
As a quick reference, the following ingredients all might add fiber to Plexus Slim:
- Polydextrose
- Grape skin (no longer in plexus slim) See my review of the new PS formula.
- Hoodia (maybe. no longer in Plexus Slim)
How Much Does Plexus Slim Cost?
One of the slogans for Plexus Slim is “At last, an affordable weight management product.” I guess that depends on how you define “affordable”. On the Plexus Slim website, they have different prices depending on whether you want to buy it just once or be billed each month automatically.
If you want to buy Plexus Slim one time only, its $84.95. If you want to be billed automatically at the 15th of each month, Plexus Slim is $79.95/ month.
Is Plexus Slim OK When Breast-Feeding?
Some women have wondered if they can take Plexus Slim while they are breastfeeding? That's not something I would recommend because if any of the ingredients in Plexus Slim pass into breast milk, then their baby will be getting those ingredients too.
I don't know for sure if any of the ingredients do get absorbed into breast milk, so I do recommend that women take the ingredients in Plexus Slim to their doctor to see if they can get a better answer.
How Much Caffeine?
The Plexus Slim Nutrition label states that it has less than 2% of naturally occurring caffeine. My guess is that the caffeine comes from the green coffee bean extract because this statement is listed next to the green coffee bean ingredient on the label. I'm not sure how much 2% natural caffeine equals.
Plexus Slim and ADHD
Since writing this review I've heard that this product may be marketed to help Attention Deficient Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). A search on Google reveals several testimonials from people saying that it helps. I became curious and searched for “Plexus ADHD research.” I searched Google for this phrase and I also searched the National Library of Medicine too.
I saw no clinical studies on this topic. Therefore, whether it Plexus helps ADHD or not is unknown as far as I can tell. Nobody appears to have undertaken the chore of taking this stuff into the lab and actually tried to really see if it helps or not.
The same thing also seems to be true for bipolar disorder and depression. I cannot find any evidence Plexus Slim directly helps either of these conditions either.
Having said that, lack of evidence doesn't necessarily mean something does not work. Rather, it just means that it seems that, other than testimonials (from people most of us don't know), there doesn't seem to be any good proof for it yet.
How To Contact Plexus Slim
PlexusWorldWide lists this contact phone number: 480-998-3490 which people can call 6 AM-6 PM (PST) Monday -Friday and 9 AM-2 PM (PST) on Saturday.
How To Return Plexus Slim
Plexus Slim products come with a 60-day money-back guarantee. For those who purchased from Plexus Ambassadors, contact that person for details on how to return the product, or call the company itself at 480-998-3490.
Does Plexus Slim Have Any Side Effects?
On the Q and A page of the Plexus Slim website (question 7) where it's asked: “Will Plexus Slim interfere or react with any medications or other supplements?” the makers say: ” No. Extensive clinical research has demonstrated no ill side effects with any medications or other supplements.”
Where is all the “extensive clinical research” on Plexus Slim? As far as I can tell, Plexus Slim has NEVER been tested in published studies to see if it interacts with any medication or health condition.
The only study I've seen on Plexus Slim is a summary of a study they show on their website. This is a study from 2008 where they gave the product to 8 people with type II diabetes. Yes, improvements were seen in blood sugar, body weight and other things, but this is not a published, peer reviewed study. As such, there is a lot we are not told about how this study was conducted. It may be the best study in the world, but if we can't see how it was conducted, then it can't be duplicated by other scientists.
That said, in healthy people, I think Plexus Slim (the pink drink product) is safe. Below are some theoretical side effects based on its ingredients.
Grape skin. Some components of grape skin might interfere with medications such as Coumadin (a blood thinner). I'm not aware of any human evidence of this, but because blood thinners can intact with many things, its best to talk to a doctor about this. Update. grape skin is no longer in plexus slim
Chlorogenic acid. This compound might raise homocysteine levels in humans. Homocysteine is a somewhat controversial molecule because some feel it might be linked to heart disease.
See my review of chlorogenic acid for more info.
Citrin K/ Garcinia cambogia. There is some controversial evidence that Garcinia Cambogia may be linked to liver problems. Personally, I'm not yet convinced it does this. For more info on this see my review of garcinia Cambogia.
Alpha-lipoic acid. This ingredient appears to lower blood sugar. Because of this, alpha-lipoic acid might interfere with insulin and other diabetes medications. Alpha-lipoic acid seems to reduce thyroid hormone levels. This can be a problem for people who take Levothyroxin for hypothyroidism (low thyroid).
Hoodia. As I reported in my book on supplements hoodia Gordonii seems to share some chemical similarity to a class of heart drugs called cardiac glycosides. In fact, if you Google “Hoodia and cardiac glycosides.” I don’t know the clinical significance of this. That said, if you have heart or blood pressure issues please see your cardiologist before using any hoodia supplement, just to be safe.
Chromium may lower blood sugar levels. While this can be a good thing, it also means chromium might interact with blood-sugar-lowering medications. This might – in theory – make blood sugar levels to too low.
As a general, blanket statement, I would be cautious if you have any problems with your heart, blood pressure, kidneys, liver, mental disorders, diabetes or digestive problems. I would not recommend Plexus Slim if you had bariatric surgery either. To their credit, the makers of Plexus Slim do say to see your doctor first if you are pregnant. I agree with this.
The Plexus Slim Accelerator
Update: The Accelerator formula has changed significantly and the product is now called Plexus Accelerator Plus (Accelerator +). Do read my review of the Plexus Accelerator Plus for additional information on the new product.
This is another product sold on the Plexus Slim website. The word “accelerator” is a tip-off that this product is a stimulant.
The Plexus Slim Accelerator contains trace minerals, calcium, and magnesium from seaweed (both are useless for weight loss) and vitamin B6 (useless for weight loss). The accelerator also has a “proprietary blend” of:
- Dark Chocolate – won't help weight loss, unless it has caffeine
- Natural Caffeine – natural or not, it's caffeine!
- Green Tea Extract – probably has caffeine or EGCG
- Vanadium Chelate. This is the fancy name for Vanadium. It won't help weight loss.
- B-Phenylethylamine HCl – might act as a neuro-chemical. Avoid if you take antidepressants.
The Plexus Slim Accelerator also has an ingredient called GeranaX. GeranaX is a reference to geranium oil. Geranium oil is controversial in some circles because it is thought by some to be a natural source of a stimulant called Dimethylamylamineor “DMAA. ” It's scientific name is 1,3 Dimethylamylamine and its also called Methylhexaneamine.
The name “GeranaX” is a made-up word. In other words, the name GeranaX holds no scientific meaning.
Geranium has been the subject by scrutiny by the military, whose research finds that geranium does not contain DMAA. Oddly, the supplement 411 website still lists “geranium” as an alternative name for DMAA in its listings. Currently, it is controversial if geranium is a source of DMAA or not.
As of July 2013, the Australian government warned people about the Plexus Slim Accelerator because they say it had DMAA. This link goes to the Australian government website that discusses the Plexus Slim Accelerator and DMAA.
- In April of 2013, the FDA issued a warning letter about DMAA.
- Here is a New York Times article on DMAA for more information.
The ingredient DMAA seems to act like ephedra or bitter orange (synephrine) which are potent stimulants. As such, it may raise blood pressure and heart rate to dangerous levels. Here is a case report of a 21-year-old man who suffered a stroke after taking 2 DMAA pills.
This does not mean plexus slim will do this. It would depend on whether DMAA really is in geranium and also which part of the plant was used (root, stems ect).
Di methy amyl amine “looks” like amphetamines (“speed”). This may be why question 6 of the Plexus Slim Q and A page mentions that this ingredient may cause a positive result on a drug test for amphetamines. Here is a study showing that dimethylamylamine causes false positive drug tests for amphetamines.
Plexus Slim Bio-Cleanse
This is a laxative. Always remember, the word “cleanse” means laxative. The Plexus Slim Bio Cleanse supplement lives up to its laxative name because it contains magnesium, which is indeed a laxative. Remember “Milk of Magnesia.” Either way, laxatives don't cause any weight loss other than mostly water (and of course, poo). The Plexus Slim website lists 2 prices for this product – $29.95 or $39.95 -both of which are too pricey for me.
Plexus Boost
Here is my review of Plexus Boost. I cover a lot of information in this review and I also compare it to the ingredients in Accelerator Plus as well.
Plexus Slim Fast Relief
The Fast Relief product appears to be a pain relief formula that exists in both a cream
For more information, see the review of Omega XL.
Will Plexus Slim Work?
Honestly, I'm not if it works because Plexus Slim – itself- has no published proof. If you read the comments below, you'll see some people do say it's helped them lose weight. If it works, is it because of the unique blend of ingredients in Plexus Slim or is it because of just a few key ingredients alone?
Here are Plexus Supplements on Amazon
A quote from Plexus Worldwide: “The Conversation Is No Longer About Skinniness, It’s About Wellness. A Much More Exciting Conversation To Have.”
I guess when your product doesn’t do what it was designed to do, you just throw some more “crap” on the wall!, and someone will picks it off.
People, do you actually believe this? This is one of the worst marketing moves I have ever seen in my entire selling career.
I have not had a chance to try Plexus yet, but I know 3 different people from 3 completely different parts of my life, who dont even know each other who have used Plexus and are now ambassadors because of the results they got. They have had more energy, more focus and much much more.
The one friend had RA, Hashimotos, Crohns, and other things, all of which had been helped. Her DOCTOR even told her to keep taking and wanted information about it because she didn’t need her blood pressure medicine any more.
I just tried Plexus Slim for 7 days and that was the worst 7 days of my life. I had heartburn all 7 days all day long. It gave me energy and my heart felt like it was racing. I got things done around the house but I didn’t loose weight (I am dieting and exercising)…in fact, I gained a few pounds. Today was 2 days after the 7 day trial was up and I feel back to my normal self. No heartburn, no racing heart, and I fell better. Not going to waste my money on this stuff.
I have watched my wife loose weight and a ton of inches using slim. Also seen her energy return as well as sleep through the night. We decided to join the company and i have lost 8lbs and inches in a week and the stiffness and pain in my knees are gone.
Looking at this site I don’t even see credentials to back up who gives these reviews, Only that you use google. I would be willing to say you haven’t even tried the products for yourself. Also even “pharmaceutical grade” supplements you find in GNC or other store fronts have there proprietary blends.
I haven’t seen an FTC approved, regulated, or tested supplement. Any way we are healthier and making money. Btw no one i no of is telling anyone to stop taking meds. On the other hand Doctors are reducing and taking people i personally know off their meds because they no longer need them. Good day.
James, happy that it has worked for you and your wife and hope things work out for you both as ambassadors. As for your questions about me, I state them in the About page which you may ahve seen. I hav ea MS degree in exercise science and a BS in chemistry and biology. As for “checking google” most of the links in my review go to the national library of medicine.
can you tell me “pharmaceutical grade” means? Does it mean the ingredients are obtained from a pharmacy?
I have tired to post a comment and I keep getting the timed out message. Please, I need someone to advise me! My son-in-law is a plexus ambassador and is extremely obsessed to the point of giving these products to his seven children ranging from 1-12 years old. He has even spanked the 3 year old for not wanting to take the pro bio capsule, saying she was disobedient.
Some of the others hide the five pills he gives them They say it makes them feel weird, Is this child abuse? I really don’t care if he takes them and sells them. To each their own but giving them to children? Feedback please?
Susan, I personally don’t feel supplements are appropriate in small children.
Joe
Here is something I am hearing about PS products, and I don’t think it is coincidental. Three people, all ambassadors, have had some major GI disorders that they say, can only be traced to the use of PS products. (PS, Accelerator, and the Pro-biotic among others)
Here is what got my attention. All three had basically the same symptoms. Stomach pain that radiated to the back, elevated liver enzymes, pancreatitis, and inflamed gallbladder. One had to have gallbladder removed. No proof here, but strange when it has been shown that 20% of people taking diet supplements will experience these problems at one time, or another.
I was wondering if other people are having these, or other issues with PS products.
Pete, thanks for the heads up. Ive never heard of that before. Anyone else?
Hi Joe,
I found your site by accident. I have a friend from college who posts quite a bit day to day, and a few times a month she usually posts something about Plexus. These posts seem artificial and infomercial-like in nature. I felt like trolling her a bit, so I started looking for information about this product. I typically don’t have any interest in products like these because basic biology will tell you that while some products may aid in weightloss, achieving a healthy weight and body takes more than a supplement.
I’ve never struggled with extreme weight gain, but I did pack on a few college pounds and tried a few things. In the last 2 years I purchased a fitbit (found out even working 50 hours a week, I was barely moving) and increased my steps and decreased my junk food. Slow, but steady and consistent weightloss followed.
I’m about 5lbs from goal. In my attempt at finding something snarky, I found that I could hardly find anything negative about this product, or anything at all really aside from sales. Your website is an amazing find.
I decided against the snarky comment because in reality it does not matter to me what she chooses to use, just as I’m sure she does not have the same worries for me. What I did find was a patient and level-headed person offering unbiased, useful information in a sea of nonsense (from both sides, I might add). Good job, and thank you for your time. You will be my resource for any supplement curiosities I might have, and a good bit of entertainment if I need some comments to read. Good luck, I hope everyone finds their solution.
geraldsmom, So happy you found me by accident and also glad you found some use for what I’ve written. Enjoy your fit bit. I use it too 🙂
Hey Joe! I decided to get back on Slim again (for those who don’t know, it’s the drink). On June 15 I felt my ribs tightening and knew what that meant. Luckily I wasn’t in the bathroom throwing up that night. Could be that it wasn’t as bad because of my taking the probiotics and cleanse? I dunno, you’re the expert on that sort of thing.
After that though, I got my hands on some more Slim and started taking drinking it the morning of June 16th and I’m not going off of it again. I don’t care if I have to sell half of my belongings, I’m not going through that again. I wish I could find something cheaper to use that’s not synthetic.
As far as weight gain, it took me 2 months to gain the weight back (about 5 pounds) that I had lost. This time I’m going to make sure I exercise. I asked my boss if I could come in an hour later and she said that was fine. Long story, but now I can get up and exercise before waking my daughter (and grandkids, when they spend the night). I just started exercising a week and a half ago and so far so good. 🙂
~ Melinda H (I added the “H” because I saw somebody else with my name from a few years ago up ^there^.
Melenda H, I hope it continues to work for you and hope your days of throwing up are over. Happy 4th of July BTW 🙂
Hey Joe!
Well, I started back on the Slim last week. I started having problems again and it was full swing last Monday, so I’m planning on finding a way to stay on it.
I thought about going to a health or nutrition store to see if I could check out something else that I might be able to try for acid reflux, inflammation, and joint and muscle pain. Do you have any recommendations?
Hi Melinda, those are some tall orders. Some people tell me that tart cherry juice helps their inflammation and pain. Some also say it helps them sleep better too. Here is my tart cherry juice review if you want to know more.
As for acid reflux, I’m not sure right now supplement what might correct that naturally. Do cut back on alcohol and caffeine /carbonated sodas etc as they can make it worse. Smoking also can make it worse too. Run this past your pharmacist and see if they know anything. If you find anything out let me know.
This forum is still so funny to me. All it really consists of are the same people, saying the same things, doing the same things and acting the same way as they have for the past couple of years.
Hmmm, I’ll have to come up with a good line or paragraph so I can be quoted again, oh how I miss that. What a way to spend every day….complaining about and bashing MLM in a forum that started out as a review of the ingredients of a supplement. I’m guessing this isn’t the only forum that is invaded by the MLM police. I’m sure several of the forums have the same couple of people making frequent posts.
HAHA. WOW!!
RE: RECRUITING CHUCH MEMBERS….
I don’t mean to offend anyone either, but I do get sick of people using what I call “God in the box” (only when it’s necessary) to make them and their business look good. If you have to TELL me how good you are, I’ll run. SHOW me, I’ll watch.
Yes, I am a Christian, and our rule has always been, no matter WHAT my business, I do not involve people from the church. There are MANY reasons for that but it is also mentioned in the Bible numerous times. Mark 11, Matthew 21 and this one hits the nail on the head…
John 2:14-16 – Jesus went to the temple and removed from it those who were using it for personal business profit.
Quoted verse here:
In the Temple area he saw merchants selling cattle, sheep, and doves for sacrifices; he also saw dealers at tables exchanging foreign money. Jesus made a whip from some ropes and chased them all out of the Temple. He drove out the sheep and cattle, scattered the money changers’ coins over the floor, and turned over their tables. Then, going over to the people who sold doves, he told them, “Get these things out of here. Stop turning my Father’s house into a marketplace!”
I think that sums it up for Pastors or anyone else using their church to profit their business.
Pinkwashed
When a product is wrapped around a flag, or religion, “buyer beware”!
This sick, twisted way that these North Texas ambassadors use God in connection with selling this tripe is what I cannot stand the most. The queen bee in McKinney is the absolute worst in the world. She has on numerous occasions dropped the whole “so blessed” song and dance in her posts and her sheep exalt her as some great Christian woman. Let me ask you if this sounds like a great Christian woman who when challenged about Plexus came back with this:
“I am the top ambassador in the entire company and I come from a background of VERY successful traditional businesses…I look like a million bucks (Yep…I’m confident too), I feel great (so I’m a better wife and mom), and I make high 6 figures a month. No…that is not a typo…6 figures a month…So unless you are feeling fit and fabulous and you are insanely rich…”
Does that sound like someone who is strong in their faith? Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe the Bible tells us:
No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.” – Matthew 6:24
and
“Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.” – 1 Timothy 6:9-10
This is the top earner in Plexus, by the way. Really speaks volumes about the kind of company we’re dealing with here.
I’ve been using PS for about two weeks and have gained six pounds. I don’t feel more energetic, I don’t feel less hungry, I don’t have less appetite for sweets, etc. Simply stated, I have experienced 0 benefit for my investment. I anticipate returning the products.
Joe
From the Pinkdrinkscamalert blog: PS introduced a new product at their convention in Arizona this past week.;
The product is called MEGA X, and it’s main ingredient is AHIFLOWER OIL.
Pete, thanks. It looks like Mega X is an omgea 3,6,9,5,7 product. Just off the top of my head, while we might need omega 3 fatty acids, I don’t think most of us are lacking omega 6 fatty acids. Id have to look closer at the others.
One can only imagine what the herd of ambassadors will start claiming this product will cure. Someone posted a video of when they introduced this sham product. All the people at the Phoenix convention bleated like the sheep they are when the fancy video & light show went on.
Anyone with half a brain has known that the Omega 3 fad is just that, a fad. They have been proven to be ineffective for heart issues, stroke. cardiovascular issues, etc. But that won’t stop Plexus from making claims. Funny, I’ll bet that within the next 3 months, we’ll hear from folks claiming their uplines tell them that they need to take this stuff in order to see weight loss, etc. You know, the whole “synergistic” sales pitch.
Joe
Will you be doing a review on the new Plexus Mega X?
Pete, I recently heard of it. Its on my list. I know its an omega fat supplement but I need to see the label.
Michael
To my understanding, there are about 200,000 ambassadors with PS. There were only 6500 of those at the convention in Arizona, their home base.
Little do the simpletons know that of that 6500, only 65 (1%) of those are making money, or will be making money. 99% will lose money.
Remember, most all had to pay their own expenses to the rah-rah meeting, expecting to make that money back. This lie is told to the downline by the upline, just to get them to the meeting. Most will end up in credit card debt as a result of the meeting.
I’m 67 years old. I’ve been taking Plexus Slim for two weeks. I have more energy then I’ve had in years, I feel great, and I’ve lost a few pounds. I don’t get no exercise because I’m an over the road, coast to coast truck driver. You all can say what you want about Plexus Slim. It won’t change my mind about how much I enjoy it.
In today’s society, the so called specialists and “no it alls” will tell you that drinking water will give you cancer! Lighten up and get your Einstein noses out of your asses! You don’t like it or are afraid of the ingredients, don’t take it! Simple as that!
Ed Stambaugh
You have been taking PS for a total of 2-week?. Wow! You don’t really think that is sufficient enough time to effectively and objectively evaluate a product do you? Give it a month or two, then let us know how PS is working for you. Most people don’t come back to the site and post their results, I wonder what’s happening! lol
I do wish you luck, Ed.
Pete,
That’s nothing more than a fake pro-Plexus post from someone who has been urged to come on this site and prop up a fake name and story.
I tried plexus at the reommendation of a friend. Needless to say I got really sick n almost died. I am highly allergic to stevia “its an artificial sweetener” that’s included in this product. Also I had a severe reaction to hoodia. Be very careful with these products. I was told there was no artificial sweeteners in this product but as you can see from the ingredients there are two including stevia. Buyer beware.
Most people who are promoting this product have no desire to tell you the truth they are all about making quick money off other peoples desires of losing weight
For those who expect to make money with PS, or most other MLM companies, let’s look at the math, and the use of plain old “common sense”.
MLMs, like PS, work by geometric expansion, where you get ten to sponsor ten to sponsor ten, and so on. This is usually shown as an expanding matrix, “pyramid “. (just don’t say “pyramid”!) with corresponding kick-backs at various levels.
The problem here is one of common sense. At a mere three levels deep this would be 1,000 people. There goes the neighborhood! At six levels deep, that would be 1,000,000 people believing they can make money selling. But to whom? The market is saturated with product, and people (most importantly) There goes the city!
And the MLM is just getting its steam going. Think of all the meetings! Think of all the “dreams” being sold! Think of the false hopes being generated. Think of the money being lost.
So, in reality, after about the third level of participants, everyone who is convinced to join PS is being lied to, and given false hope of making big bucks. This may, or may not be intentional. The ambassadors may not even know this is happening.
Oh, those ambassadors have no clue. In fact, the top ambassador here in Texas made a post last week about how with one simple $34.95 “investment”, she has calculated that she made 84,000 times her investment with Plexus. Immediately, like sheep running off a cliff, her downlines began spreading the same post all over their pages.
They’re so pathetically blinded to the fact that they are the ones who line her pocket. They believe they can do the same as she has, despite market saturation and the horrible reputation that Plexus has managed to attain now.
Michael
Do some ambassadors understand that they are deceiving their downlines in order to maintain their extravagant lifestyles? Sure, there are some.
In my opinion, here is a basic description of PS ambassadors and why they are so easily drawn into such a deceptive business practice:
Most are unsophisticated and uneducated. Persons unschooled or weak in their under-standing of basic mathematics or economics may they fail to see the inherent flaws in endless chain recruitment systems. These folks may not be of low intelligence, just lacking in mathematical savvy.
I’d like to read more about the horrible reputation. Do you have anything else to share? I know gossip doesn’t necessarily due justice to this site about supplement reviews, but I think you can’t have good products if the companies reputation is horrible. Can you?
The reputation aspect is just something I have picked up from online research as well as speaking to people who have been approached or sold to.
Websites:
plexuspoint dot com – interesting comments section here.
https://www.fitfinally dot com/go/skewed-plexus-survey-results/
http://langshipley-deannasworld.blogspot dot com/2013/06/plexus-slim-experience-my-first-16-days.html
http://consumerscompare dot org/plexus-slim-diet-review/
http://dietpillreviewsite dot com/plexus-slim/
http://www.naturalhealthadvisory dot com/daily/natural-health-101/is-plexus-safe/
One thing I will point out about this website – we have had numerous posts from people who said they would “try the product out” and then report back here with results. You will notice that nearly all of them vanish and never follow up. That says something. If it was the miracle product they claim, then everyone would be back here chiming in on it.
90 complaints with BBB, FDA warning letter, products that have been banned in other countries, countless side effects testimonials. This product and company does not have the stellar reputation that ambassadors lead people to believe.
So far, no ambassador I know has ever been able to tell me where their products are manufactured. That is the biggest red flag to me. The supplement industry is rife with manufacturing in Asia, India, and Mexico. As such, you can bet that people are ingesting some questionable ingredients on a daily basis. And there will be a price to pay for that later down the road. Until Plexus discloses this info, they are simply another in a long line of schemes that will eventually fold.
Pinkdrinkscam
This may be of interest to you and others. Robert Fitzpatrick of “pyramid Scheme Alert” has posted that very soon a full length documentary will be in movie houses soon.
It is titled “Man on the Top”. Here is the trailer: http://www.manontopfilm.com/?utm_source=April+2015+Update&utm_campaign=Media+Digging+Deeper+into+MLM&utm_medium=email
I thought I would stop by today and see if the same situation existed here, that situation being the same group of people in here doing the same things that they have been doing every day for the past year (some have even been doing it a couple of years-yikes). WELL, low and behold, they are still here complaining about the same things, making the same arguments, posting their same professional knowledge, yada yada yada. Chasing away anyone who is for the product, regardless of whether it be for the financial benefit, health benefit or simply because they like it.
I know that researching on the “never wrong” internet, finding things to “quote” from this forum and trying to correct everyone’s grammar has to be very time consuming; therefore, I just can’t imagine spending all of my time doing it, just to post it on a simple forum like this. Maybe those of you that do it, don’t have important things to do, like work? Hmmm, it makes one wonder. But, then again, I don’t really care, it just makes me wonder what kind of life that must be.
I just had to come back show to some interest, since most people have been turned off by this forum. Also, I needed a good laugh and knew this would be the perfect place to get it, with all of the knowledge shared in here. HAHAHA. Thanks all, have a great day.
BTW: I still use Plexus, as do many others, love it and feel great.
M
M.
Isn’t it great that there is a place that allows both positive and negative comments and they are not deleted, maybe some of the obscene ones posted .. not sure ..
Readers can decide for themselves what they want to do with the info provided.
Don`t you wonder why people keep complaining about the same thing.
I guess your situation is no different from the ones you mock, since you could only find this place to get a good laugh in your life.
Hope you aren`t going to come back with some fake name in a few months and talk about any long term health effects and tell readers how you wish that you knew about them sooner.
Maybe the Easter bunny will fill your bucket with love, joy and happiness this weekend.
Yeh, right, thepinkdrinkscam, whatever you say. Anyone who posts a comment in support of the product gets bashed in this forum. It’s only the anti-PS people left in here. I could dissect your comment, but won’t waste my time. More power to you all and best of luck on your crusade.
Good day,
M
Supporting a product, which one do you support and which formulation?
Do the products work, or did a person taking the products do anything different other than consume those products?
I would be interested to hear what you have to say in favour of these products and provide what you did do differently as opposed to prior to taking the products.
Drinking more water, yoga, eating differently, eliminating junk food..
To say you did nothing different can’t be true as the products boast such things as curbing an appetite, and people are told to drink more water.
Enlighten us please.
Just to be clear…I did those things for years – YEARS before Plexus. I only had 15 pounds to lose from baby weight 5 years prior. For some reason, at 39 and my third baby, I couldn’t get the weight off. But, the juicing, exercising, eating sugar free…that’s been my lifestyle for a very, very long time. Not after Plexus. Sorry about the confusion.
“but won’t waste my time”
In “M”-speak, this means she’s unable to back up what she says.
Yes…I agree. I just read the comments as they show up on my email since I follow this blog…wow. But, over a year in and I feel great. I still take the products. My cholesterol is better (good is up 10 points, bad is down 11 points), my blood sugar is stable at 88 every time I check it (give or take a few), my liver is better after some inflammation because of Cipro, and my mood is great.
Also, my pocket book is still not hurting. I don’t make $1,000s every month – like some aim or claim to. I just make enough to cover my products – which is all I expect to ever make.
Some people love it, some people didn’t get anything from it. That’s okay. One thing I’m sure of is that it’s not for everyone.
Oh – that and this one other thing: I eat organic, I juice fresh veggies every night, I eat a well-rounded diet as directed by a nutritionist, and I exercise daily.
I’ve had bad experiences in my life, but that doesn’t warrant an obsession. Some of these people are obsessed for some reason. I sure would hate to be their ex-wives!
I would love for some of these commenters to try it for a week or a month. And then report back. They are always calling for Plexus to report on actual studies – but they haven’t done them themselves, either. It’s like Christians who haven’t read the Bible. Or I guess atheists that haven’t read the Bible, in this case. Either way – I don’t take anything they say as fact, since it’s all third party information.
Well said Stacy!! I love it also.
M
Yeah, Stacy, well said, every lay person should have their own clinical laboratory to see if that product is right for them. How ridiculous. I actually tried the junk, gave me diarrhea, and 180bp. l almost stroked out.
You and M must be married!!
“I would love for some of these commenters to try it for a week or a month.”
If I don’t have weight issues or dietary concerns, what possible reason do I need to ingest untested supplements? Why would I want to take chemicals into my system that most likely have been produced overseas with little to no quality control? What possible benefit could I get from introducing a stimulant into my body when I have zero need?
Your assumptions that “we” need to take any of this garbage shows a complete lack of intelligence. Some of us get along just fine without supplementation.
“They are always calling for Plexus to report on actual studies – but they haven’t done them themselves, either.”
So, in your world, the consumer must blindly jump in and take products that could result in detrimental side effects? What kind of logic are you using here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyOzaS1-yc8
Nuff said.
M
Folks, she’s baaaaack!!!!
LOL Enjoying the show! 🙂
“M” writes:
“I know that researching on the “never wrong” internet, finding things to “quote” from this forum and trying to correct everyone’s grammar has to be very time consuming.”
Let me be the first to remind everyone here that “M” stated the following:
““I’m done entertaining and arguing with you. I have nothing to prove or say to you. You’re not worth my time or energy.””
Yet, here she is again, stirring things up while acting as if she is a victim. Just as she lied about her ambassador status, she lies about virtually everything else.
“therefore, I just can’t imagine spending all of my time doing it, just to post it on a simple forum like this.”
All of your time? You do realize it takes only a few seconds to obliterate anything you say, right? Pretty much the same applies to any wild claims by Plexus.
“Maybe those of you that do it, don’t have important things to do, like work?”
Ever heard of multi-tasking, M? I would figure that a self-professed multi-millionaire such as yourself had these skills. Apparently, I was mistaken.
“Hmmm, it makes one wonder. But, then again, I don’t really care, it just makes me wonder what kind of life that must be.”
You don’t care but you care just enough to come in here, scroll through posts, and then go into a diatribe about things you supposedly “don’t care about”. Its almost the same logic as Plexus. Lose weight with it but when you don’t, talk about how it’s “not about the weight loss.”
There is freedom in TRUTH! THANK YOU MICHAEL! 🙂 Sadly, many will never see this information and continue their journey into the pinkwashed cult raising the leaders up as some sort of God and hanging on to their every word for dear life….
Good article regarding the lack of testing/safety of Plexus – http://www.naturalhealthadvisory.com/daily/natural-health-101/is-plexus-safe/
“Plexus Worldwide states, “Its effectiveness has been clinically proven.” However, they do not reference this claim and they do not provide any additional information on their website to support it. A search of all the general databases for published medical research, including PubMed and Google Scholar, does not turn up any citations for studies on Plexus Slim® or on any product containing its proprietary blend of ingredients.”
“On their website, Plexus Worldwide provides very little information about their quality assurance protocols or manufacturing practices, leaving questions about whether Plexus Slim is tainted or contaminated. Because of these issues and more, it is not easy to definitively know whether Plexus Slim is safe or not. Supplements can be incredibly effective tools for health and wellness, but it is best not to guess or take chances on supplements that do not disclose even basic information about ingredient sources, their amounts, quality control, and manufacturing practices.”
“”questions about whether Plexus Slim is tainted or contaminated”
I was with the company at one point and I recall vividly opening a 3 day pack, that stunk like fish!
I was told “The odor was a combination of the packaging and accelerator pills”
They shipped me replacement products.
If I knew then what I knew today…
“”studies on Plexus Slim””
Those do not exist.
There is more going on than the average person knows about this company and these products.
I would encourage ANYONE that has had ANY type of health reaction to REPORT that to the FDA.
Even if you had a headache for one hour, felt dizzy for 10 minutes, or thought you had enough energy to run a marathon.
It is not just this company, it is an industry wide epidemic that needs to be fixed. People don’t want to bother reporting their health issues with products as they think it’s no big deal, they feel better now, they don’t want to bother anyone, or they feel stupid or embarrassed. Speak up! That is why the FDA and the FTC and the BBB and all other consumer protection agencies exist. To protect you.
I took their products, I thought I was going to die. I told nobody for a long time. I told my upline later and I was told a song and dance that I believed, as that song and dance was shared with hundreds! So why was I any different and who was I to say that these wonderful God’s gift of products may have harmed me?
Speaking up has a price. Yes. Should it? No.
A Woman Scammed has a great resource list..
http://pinkdrinkscamalert.blogspot.ca/p/resources-to-file-complaints.html
I find this to be interesting. Thttp://www.businessforhome.org/2015/02/direct-sellling-companies-complaints-poll-february-2015/
Provided by ” pinkdrinkscamalert.”
Sorry folks. http://www.businessforhome.org/2015/02/direct-sellling-companies-complaints-poll-february-2015/
The correct link to my post March 26.
Thanks Carrie and Michael. I look forward to more of your post.
For all you MLM simpletons who are set on claiming you are involved in a legitimate business. I found out today that the SBA (Small Business Association) does not recognize MLM as such, and will not make loans to ANYONE involved. Their feeling is that the failure rate is too high. Regular businesses do have a high failure rate (39%), but not near the 99% failure rate of MLM.