Update 10/18/21. Arthri D (also called Arthri D3) is arthritis and anti-inflammation supplement that you may have seen advertised in a 30 minute TV commercial. After watching the 30-minute infomercial, you may have wondered, does Arthri D work, or is it a scam? Well, one thing is this supplement contains an ingredient ―called N acetyl glucosamine ―that I don't see in many arthritis products. Does that ingredient make it better? It was this ingredient that made me want to review Arthri D3 in case you were wondering the same thing. Let's see if Arthri D is right for you.
What Does Arthri D Refer To?
The letters “arthri”is a reference to arthritis. The “D” in Arthri D3 refers to vitamin D3, the type of vitamin this supplement contains. Hence the reason it's also called “Arthri D3.” There are basically 2 different types of vitamin D:
- Vitamin D3, also called cholecalciferol
- Vitamin D2, also called ergocalciferol
Arthri D gives people 1000 IU of vitamin D3 in two capsules. While that's nice, it's possible that people may already be taking 1000- 2000 IU of vitamin D daily, given all the publicity this vitamin has been getting over the past several years. If not, I suggest getting vitamin D levels checked so you know what your levels actually are.
See the review on Vitamin D Facts.
Arthri D Research
Research conducted specifically on Arthri-D cannot be located. This doesn't not mean it does not work. Rather, it just means we need to look at the proof for its ingredients. Let's do that next.
Arthri D Ingredients
According to the ArthriD.com website, these are the ingredients in 2 capsules.
Vitamin C | 7 mg / 10%DV |
Vitamin D3 | 1000 IU / 250 DV |
Magnesium | 40 mg / 10% DV |
Proprietary blend | 1027 mg |
N-Acetyl-D-Glucosamine (NAG) | |
Chondroitin sulfate | |
Tumeric Extract | |
Rice Flour | |
Boswellia Serrata | |
Ashwaganda | |
Yucca (root) | |
Bromelain | |
Evening Primrose oil | |
Perna Canaliculus (Green Lipped Mussel) | |
Hyaluronic Acid (Sodium Hyaluronate) |
Let's take a closer look at the ingredients in Arthri D and see what the arthritis research says.
Vitamin C
Vitamin C, besides being one of the most famous antioxidant nutrients around the world, also helps us make collagen protein. Collagen is found in joints and is damaged in arthritis. So, it makes sense that it should be in an arthritis supplement. There is not a lot of vitamin C in Arthri-D.
Vitamin D
Vitamin D – which is more like a hormone than a vitamin – does many things. Evidence suggests people with low levels of vitamin D (and that's probably many of us) tend to have more rheumatoid arthritis. Rheumatoid arthritis is different from osteoarthritis, which is the more common type.
Rheumatoid arthritis is often said to be an autoimmune disease. Vitamin D does seem to help make the immune system smarter, so it makes some sense it might help. While vitamin D may help support the immune system, supplements don't seem to improve arthritis pain. The same is true for osteoarthritis pain, too.
Two capsules of Arthri-D provide 1000 IU of vitamin D3. That is a good amount. Vitamin D3 is the version of the vitamin we make when we are exposed to sunlight.
See the vitamin D review for much more information.
N-Acetyl Glucosamine
Also called “NAG.” How much NAG is in Arthri D3? They don't tell us. They only say that the “proprietary blend” contains a total of 1027 mg (about 1 gram). Since NAG is listed first, it makes up most of this blend.
I don't see many arthritis supplements that contain this type of glucosamine. Most products contain either:
- Glucosamine HCL
So, does it work?
A study published in 2001 titled Oral polymeric N-acetyl-D-glucosamine and osteoarthritis. This investigation consisted of 10 people with osteoarthritis. People either received 1.5 grams of N-acetyl Glucosamine (NAG) or a placebo for 6 weeks.
It's important to note that this study did not specifically use N-acetyl glucosamine (NAG) but rather a polymer complex of NAG, called “Poly Nag” produced by a company called Lescarden. This Poly Nag complex consists of both glucosamine and N-acetyl glucosamine.
Researchers noted that those getting the Poly Nag supplement showed improvements in osteoarthritis pain scales compared to the placebo.
This study actually stated there was a “significant improvement” in osteoarthritis pain. But, -unlike most studies – there is no mention of the statistics associated with this effect. Without getting bogged down in math, let me just say that the omission of statistics (like P values) is a big problem with this study.
Researchers in Japan, in 2006 noted a soy-milk beverage containing 1250 mg of NAG reduced arthritis pain in the knees more than just soy milk after 12 weeks of use.
In 2017, researchers in Japan noted that NAG improved cartilage metabolism. This investigation involved healthy people who did not have arthritis and were given 500-1000 mg of NAG per day.
Other than these investigations, most other research located involves involved lab animals or were test-tube studies. Here is a summary of some of those studies:
- Suppressive effects of N-acetyl-D-glucosamine on rheumatoid arthritis mouse models. This is a mouse study.
- Effect of glucosamine, a therapeutic agent for osteoarthritis, on osteoblastic cell differentiation. This is a test tube study.
- Chondroprotective effect of N-acetylglucosamine and hyaluronate in early stages of osteoarthritis–an experimental study in rabbits. This is a rabbit study. NAG was injected into rabbits.
- Chondroprotective activity of N-acetylglucosamine in rabbits with experimental osteoarthritis. This is a rabbit study. NAG was injected into rabbits.
While lab animal research is nice to have, human proof is better.
While NAG does contain glucosamine, I believe there is more evidence for glucosamine sulfate than NAG supplements when it comes to arthritis pain.
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Chondroitin Sulfate
Chondroitin sulfate is popular in arthritis supplements, but it's difficult to say how effective it might be. Some studies have noted that chondroitin sulfate (alone and in combination with glucosamine sulfate) might help osteoarthritis (particularly knee arthritis). For example, this study:
On the flip side, other studies noted chondroitin sulfate does not help arthritis. Some of those studies include:
I'm on the fence when it comes to chondroitin sulfate helping arthritis. I' want to see more research. Men, talk to your urologist if you have prostate problems.
Turmeric
Also known as Curcuma longa and curcumin. This herb has anti-inflammatory effects. Since inflammation often accompanies arthritis, it makes sense that turmeric would be in arthritis supplements. Other supplements containing turmeric that have been reviewed include
One arthritis study located involved a supplement called “Meriva” which contains turmeric and Phosphatidylcholine which is said to boost the absorption of turmeric. On the Meriva website, they call this a “Curcumin Phytosome.” A “phytosome” is a man-made word used to describe something that is better absorbed, in this case, turmeric.
That said, one easy way to boost turmeric absorption is to add some black pepper. I've often added black pepper and turmeric to my smoothies.
Here are Turmeric Supplements on Amazon
Rice Flour
I am not aware of any arthritis research on rice flour.
Boswellia Serrata
Boswellia (also called frankincense) has anti-inflammatory properties. So it makes sense to use it in arthritis supplements. There is also arthritis research on this herb also.
In one investigation, a Boswellia supplement called Aflapin (now called ApresFLEX) improved arthritis pain in 60 people with osteoarthritis after 30 days of use. The dosage used was 100 mg per day. There have been other studies on ApresFlex too showing it may help.
On the flip side, though, researchers in 2008, looking at several other boswellia studies, noted that while boswellia appeared “clinically effective” and “encouraging” for a number of conditions like arthritis, Crohn's disease, asthma, etc., they did not feel the evidence was “compelling.” This lack of endorsement is likely the result of not enough good research on Boswellia.
Ashwagandha
Also called Withania somnifera. Human research suggests this herb may also reduce arthritis pain. Researchers in India, in 2016 noted that 500 mg of ashwagandha given for 12 weeks reduced arthritis pain and joint stiffness more than a placebo.
Other research suggests ashwagandha might help protect cartilage cells. Theoretically, this might help arthritis. Ashwagandha has been an ingredient in several other products I've looked at including:
- 1 Db Goddess – a weight loss supplement
- Mdrive – a “for men over 40” supplement
- Protandim – an anti-aging supplement
See those reviews for more insights
Yucca
Also called Yucca aloifolia. Like several other ingredients in Arthri D, yucca might have some anti-inflammatory properties, but I can't find any conclusive proof it specifically helps arthritis in humans.
Bromelain
Also called Ananas comosus. Bromelain is an enzyme found in pineapples. It's a protein-digesting enzyme, ans also seems to have anti-inflammatory effects. The use of bromelain for arthritis is a bit controversial.
In a 2006 study, bromelain didn't help arthritis pain any more than a placebo did.
In another study from that same year, a specific type of bromelain supplement (Phlogenzym) appeared to help arthritis pain as much as an anti-inflammatory drug. But, this supplement contained more than just bromelain. So, how much of the effect was due to bromelain by-it-self is unknown.
Evening Primrose Oil
Also called GLA, Borage Oil, Oenothera biennis and gamma-linolenic acid. This is an omega 6 fatty acid and like many other ingredients in Arthri-D3, it has anti-inflammation effects.
In a study from the 1990s, researchers noted 2.8 grams of GLA helps rheumatoid arthritis more than placebo after 6 months of use.
Perna Canaliculus
Also called Green Lipped Mussel. This is an extract from a mollusk that seems to have anti-inflammatory properties. Whether or not Perna Canaliculus helps arthritis or not is open to debate. There are studies showing it might help arthritis and other studies noting that it doesn't help arthritis.
See the Omexa XL review. I do a deep dive into the green-lipped mussel /arthritis research there.
Hyaluronic Acid
Also called Glycosaminoglycan. Hyaluronic acid is sometimes found in arthritis supplements however the bulk of the research of it helping arthritis stems from injecting it into joints ―not taking it orally. Whether or not injections of hyaluronic acid help varies from person to person.
But what about hyaluronic supplements? The research is inconsistent. Like injections, it's not known if everybody would be helped by this compound.
Arthri D Ingredients With Evidence
- Chondroitin sulfate
- NAG (maybe)
- Tumeric (maybe)
- Boswellia (maybe)
- Perna Canaliculus (maybe)
Of these 5 ingredients, it's chondroitin sulfate that has most of the evidence that it might help arthritis. The evidence for each of the other 4 ingredients is much weaker. Of course, it's possible all of these might have a better effect on reducing pain than any single ingredient.
Who Is Jim Shriner?
Jim Shriner, is the person I often see on Arthri D3 infomercials. He's a former American Gladiator (I loved that show!) and the author of several books including:
Arthri D3 Anti & Inflammation
From the ingredients, we can suspect one of the ways Arthri D3 is supposed to work is by reducing inflammation.
- Tumeric
- Boswellia
- Ashwagandha
- Yucca
- Bromelain
- Perna Canaliculus
Arthri D: Natural COX 2 Inhibitor?
In an infomercial for this supplement I saw, Jim Shriner (the main spokesperson for Arhri D) says that the ingredients in Arthri D3 contain natural COX 2 inhibitors. COX is short for “cyclo-oxygenase” (sigh-klo-ox-a-gin-ace). This is an enzyme that takes part in many things, including pain and inflammation. Many drugs you have heard of (like aspirin) inhibit the COX enzyme.
So, is Arthri D a natural COX 2 inhibitor? It's possible that some of its ingredients are, but it would take clinical proof to know if Arthri D3 inhibits the COX2 enzyme.
While I think Arthri D3 is safe, talk to your doctor if you take any medications or have health problems.
How Do You Take?
The company recommends taking Arthri D3 with food to minimize any stomach problems. The company states the supplement can be taken with or without food.
Arthri D Side Effects
The supplement is likely very safe in healthy people. I'm not aware of any side effects. Because we are all different, here are some things to consider before using this supplement. This list is not complete:
- Start with less than recommended for the first week or so. If side effects did occur, taking less should reduce them.
- Because N acetyl glucosamine (NAG) comes from shellfish, people who are allergic to shellfish may have allergic reactions. To their credit, the Arthri D website recommends not using the product if you have an allergy to shellfish.
- Glucosamine (and chondroitin) may make asthma worse. This may also be true for N acetyl glucosamine.
- Preliminary evidence hints chondroitin sulfate may increase the risk of prostate cancer. This evidence is not based on human proof. Whether supplements increase the risk is not known. Talk to your urologist if you have prostate problems. I'm sure urologists are aware of this and can guide you properly.
- Talk to your doctor if you take blood thinner medicine. Several of the ingredients in Arthri-D3 have blood-thinning effects.
- Stop taking Arthri-D3 at least two weeks before surgery.
- Avoid if pregnant or breastfeeding until speaking with your doctor.
When in doubt, talk to your doctor and pharmacist.
Who Makes Arthri D?
The website (ArthritD.com) states that Arthri D is distributed by Arthri-D LLC, Beverly, MA 01915.
The company, which has been in business since 2010 is located at 900 Cummings Center Suite 403T Beverly, MA 01915-6184.
Customer service phone number: 800-329-8576.
The Better Business Bureau gives the company an A+ rating.
See the BBB file for updates and more information.
Blue Vase Marketing LLC appears to be the company that either markets Arthri D or produces the infomercial. When this review was updated the BBB gave Blue Vase Marketing a rating of A+.
See the Androzene review for more insights
What Is CloiXonné?
It's possible the bottles you have may contain the name CloiXonné. This is another company that helps produce and distribute Arthri D supplements. They are a direct-to-consumer advertising company. They are also involved with the testosterone supplement Androzene. See that review for more insights.
Contact Arthri-D3
There are 2 contact numbers
- 800-329-8576
- 978-253-0163
Arthri D Recall
In January 2018, the company alerted the FDA they were recalling a specific lot of the supplement (Lot#1701-092 / manufactured March 2017) because it might have been contaminated with Salmonella, a bacteria which can be dangerous especially in those with weak immune systems.
This contamination was noted after routine testing by the company and was only found to occur in 1 bottle. The company promptly halted production and addressed the situation.
Sometimes, recalls like this happen with supplements and even food. It sounds like the quality control is very good, and the company caught this before it got out of hand. This is a good sign that the company is doing a good job ensuring a safe supplement.
Where To Buy Arthri D
This supplement can be purchased directly from ArthriD.com and it may be available on Amazon too. The supplement does not seem to be sold at Target, Walmart, Wegmans, BJs, Costco, GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, Vitamin World, or Sams Club. It can be purchased at its website (ArthriD.com).
Arthri D Price
So how much is Arthri D3? Here is the cost of the supplement listed on the company website (arthrid.com)
- 3 bottles: $229.98 + $9.99 shipping = $239.97
By choosing the 3-bottle option, you are entering into a subscription. This means every 56 day,s the company will send you 1 bottle so you do not run out. The cost of each bottle is $89.99 (+ $9.99) = $99.99.
Previously, the company offered the option to purchase 1 and two bottles at a time. It is not known if this is still available so call ArthriD customer service for more information.
For what it's worth, I think Arthri D3 is expensive.
Arthri D Purchase Policy
The purchase policy page of Arthrid.com states when you buy Arthri D from the product's websites, the credit card used will be charged on the day the product is bought.
If you buy Arthri D from the product's website, you may be enrolled in a “Monthly Replenishment Program.” This means that your credit card will be charged each month as more of the product is shipped to you. Be sure to ask customer service about this if you want to opt out of this program.
Arthri D Return Policy
According to the Arthrid.com purchase policy page, each 30 day supply of Arthri D comes with a 30-day return policy. The 30 days begins on the day the product is received. If you purchase a 90 day supply, you have a 90-day money-back guarantee.
To return Arthri D, follow these steps as is outlined on the ArthriD.com purchase policy page:
1. Call their Customer Satisfaction Department at 800-609-7247. Ask for a Return Authorization Number (RA number). Ask customer service for the address to return the product to. The RA number must be placed outside the package.
2. Include a copy of your original invoice AND provide a reason why you are returning the supplement. Use Fed Ex or UPS to return the package so you have a record that it was sent and received.
3. Return Arthri D within 10 days of getting the RA Number. ALL returned bottles and empty bottles (and refused bottles) will be subject to a $10 restocking fee. So, for example, if you bought 3 bottles, $30 will be deducted from your refund. Note. Refunds are only given to bottles that are returned. It can even be empty bottles.
4. Return shipping and handling costs are non-refundable.
Arthri D vs. The Competition
How Does this supplement compare to other arthritis supplements? Here's a quick rundown:
Arthri D vs. Provailen
Provailen contains different ingredients. Specifically, it contains reishi mushrooms (ganoderma lucidum ) as well as capsicum and Lonjack Tongkat Ali. No studies have compared these supplements to each other to see which might be better.
See the Provalen review.
Arthri D vs. Anatabloc
Anatabloc was once the hottest selling arthritis supplements in America. Because of problems with the FDA and some other entanglements, it is no longer sold in the US.
See the Anatabloc review.
Arthri D vs. Omega XL
Im sure everybody has seen Larry King talking about Omega XL on TV. Omega XL contains green-lipped mussel extracts which some research finds may help arthritis pain. While no study has compared Omega XL to Arthri D, the supplement does contain green-lipped mussel.
See the Omega XL review.
Arthri D vs Omax 3
Omax 3 is a fish oil supplement you may have seen advertised on TV. It contains EPA and DHA (fish oils). There is no EPA or DHA in Arthri D.
See the Omax 3 review.
Arthri D vs. Australian Dream
Australian Dream is an arthritis cream you may have seen game show host Chuck Wollery discussing on TV. Australian Dream contains an interesting ingredient that when applied to the skin may temporarily relieves arthritis pain.
See the Arthritis Dream review.
Arthri D vs. Arthro 7
I often confuse these supplements because their names sound alike. Arthro 7 has a few ingredients in common – like bromelain and turmeric – but it also has other ingredients such as Cetyl myristoleate (CMO) not found in Arthri D. No studies appear to have pitted these supplements to each other.
See the Arthro 7 review.
Arthri D vs. Instaflex
Instaflex is a popular arthritis supplement that is sold at GNC and other health food stores. Instaflex shares several ingredients in common with Arthri D such as turmeric, Boswellia and hyaluronic acid.
See the Instaflex review for more information.
Arthri D vs. Zyflamend
Zyflamend is a very interesting joint supplement that has several clinical studies to support its use. Zyflamend has even been tested to see if it helps cancer too. Most of its ingredients are different than Arthri D.
Read the Zyflamend review for more insights.
Arthri D. vs. Supple
Supple is an arthritis supplement drink that has been around for several years. You may have seen its TV commercial which featured a doctor. Supple contains glucosamine and chondroitin. Supple is not a pill but rather a powder you mix with water or juice. There is also a ready-made supple drink too.
Arthri D vs. Joint Juice
Like Supple, Joint Juice is another liquid glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate supplement. It's widely available online and in stores.
See the Joint Juice review.
Arthti D. vs. Tart Cherry Juice
Tart Cherry Juice got a lot of publicity when it was featured on the Dr. Oz show. Some studies suggest the antioxidants in tart cherries can reduce pain and even help you sleep better. How it stacks up to other arthritis supplements is not known.
See the Tart Cherry Juice Review.
Arthri D. vs. Cissus Quadragularis
Most people have probably not heard of Cissus quadragularis. Its an herbal supplement that can be purchased by itself and it may appear alongside other ingredients too. The herb has been promoted for many reasons including arthritis. There is some research on cissus and some people swear by it. I'd like to see more research.
Arthri D Pro And Con
This review was very big and detailed. To help you put things in perspective, here's a quick review of what I liked and didn't like about this supplement:
Liked | Didn’t Like |
Good quality control | Expensive |
Sensible ingredients | No research on supplement |
Been around a long time | |
Refunds on empty bottles |
These are my opinions. What matters to you may be different.
Does Arthri D Work?
It will take research on Arthri D3 to know if it works. To me, Arthri D looks like an NAG and chondroitin supplement. It does have other ingredients and it's possible those additional ingredients might bolster its effects. While results with the supplement will probably vary according to how bad your arthritis pain is, my guess is if it works, you should feel results in 30-90 days.
Here's Arthri-D on Amazon
Darla says
Was good to read your research results and all comments posted. Actually went to Amazon from your link to order AthriD and it said “not currently available” and wasn’t sure of restock date. Just an FYI. Thanks for all information you posted…phew…that’s a lot of work! ; – ) Best, Darla
Joe says
Darla, how about that! Thanks for the heads up. Sometimes supplements come and go or it may be a logistics issue on the companie’s part but either way I will keep and eye out for it. Yes, that review was a bit of work 😉
Ray Risner says
I am diagnosed with arthritis in the L4/L5 facet joints – 3 kinds of pain: the spine, constant musle spasms due to irritated nerves, and the siatitca sympthoms with radiating nerve pain out to the side and front of the hips, in the buttocks and down the legs. I have had several chemical blocks and I feel great (for about 2 days), then several proceedures called abulations (locally kills the nerves with low frequency radio waves – but the nerves grow back). Otherwise, constant nagging, almost debilatating pain. I have been taking a Tri-Flex (the big 3) for a year – doesn’t seem to help, but don’t know until I quit it maybe. Also take gabapentin (nerve blocker) which seems to help a little. What do you think might help?sounds like I don’t “need” the Big 3, do think I should take only two or one of them – which?
please email me
Ray
Joe says
Ray, I wish I had an answer for you but since Im not a doctor, I really cant make a call on what might help your specific issues.
Ray Risner says
Joe, based on your info, I will be switching from glucosamine HCL to sulfate. In your opinion, which of glucosamine, chondrotin or MSM is better for possibly helping with arthritis in the lower back and subsequent sciatica (can you put them in order)?
Can Vitamin D-3 help, what does it do?
I have also seen in your comments about Anatabloc, Turmeric, Zyflamend and Boswellia (already tried it). which of these do you consider better?
I have started taking 750 mg Black Cherry supplement tablets at night and drinking some tart cherry juice in morning – will let you know if any improvement.
Ray
Joe says
Ray, while I dont think either of those 3 are a “slam dunk, if it were me, Id start with glucoamine sulfate for 8 weeks and if that didnt help, Id add MSM and try that. I wouldnt use chondroitin as I leary about its possible link to prostate cancer (I hope it has no association but I want to see the proof first).
Get your vitamin D levels tested by your doctor before you supplement with vitamin D. lets see if you really are low first. People say lots of stuff about anatabloc, zyflamend, tumeric and boswellia. I try not to have an opinion about either of them as the research isn’t where I’d like. I prefer to start with the least expensive stuff first before moving to more expensive things
Ive heard that tart cherry’s might have some anti-inflammation properties but it will take at least 46 cherries per day to do this. Some tart cherry juice supplements tell you the equivalent in cherries they contain.
joy says
Do your research on Coconut Oil, I’m back on that bandwagon bigger than normal…it does HELP my joint pain and I can walk a bit better…..2-4T daily, or start 1tsp 3-4 times per day…..organic cold pressed virgin CO.
There is tons of info online for CO and it’s many values….many……
Joe says
Joy, Ive heard mixed things about coconut oil. They say it helps with weight loss because it contains medium chain triglycerides, types of fats that are processed differently in the body and less likely to be stored as fat. I have not been able to find any good proof it helps weight loss but that is a problem with the research. it has been shown to raise cholesterol levels so if that is a problem ask your doctor about it. I’m glad its helping your joint pain.
joy says
Joe, ask a doctor???!!! I don’t ask them anything usually. I see an integrative MD and I tell her stuff….there is TONS of info out there on the cholesterol myth…read Weston A Price foundation’s info on cholesterol, they do tons of research on OILS….they are huge promoter of CO. My MD checks homocysteine levels which I have read is more connected to heart disease…there is a good book: The Heart Revolution, talk about an eye opener….pharma makes MEGA $$$ on the cholesterol drugs they push….
Lack of B12 and Folic Acid can elevate homocysteine…..When I slacked off my B12/Folic Acid, my homo elevated…..
On the glucosomine, I’ve taken it off and on for many years, no chondrotin, read NOT good stuff about it a LONG time ago. Glucosomine does NOT help for me if any…I’m on it again but can’t say…..I open caps and put some in my topical creams I make up for topical creams on my joints…..
Joe says
Joy, I can only comment on things Ive seen and Ive seen coconut oil can raise cholesterol and LDL as well as HDL. While I do consider homocysteine Im not sure if it promotes heart disease or is a consequence of heart disease. for example, studies show that even though folic acid, b5 and b 12 lower homocysteine levels, doing this doesn’t seem to reduce the risk of a heart attack. What I can say is that Im glad you keep tabs on it because it means you’re an informed patient which I feel everybody should be.
Pjeffy says
I have severe OA and have replaced both hips and knees. I have tried everything and now alternate between Celebrex – or a combo of tumeric, boswella and devil’s claw. They both work equally well – but the Celebrex is less hassle and cheaper with insurance. However, I have to take a break from Celebrex every few months, or I get terrible side effects. For the natural supplements to work, I take 2 capsules or pills 4 times a day.
Glucosamine and Chondroitan are a waste of money and bromelain had no positive effect on arthritis pain relief. Ashwangada is a good stimulant but didn’t help with arthritis.
Kem says
I am a diabetic type 1 among several other medical problems, Is this going to effect my diabetis as I take insulin.
Joe says
Kem, I personally think its a remote possibility but I would feel better if you ask your doctor and pharmacist about this first. You said you had other medical problems as well and because of that, I really feel your doctor is the best person to advise you on this issue.
joy says
For Kem: I’ve always been concerned about glucosomine and glucose….do some checking around on that….some yrs ago while at an ortho MD’s office, he suggested buying their glucosomine and I comment on the glucose and sugar connection and he made no comment, yah or nah….so look into that. You certainly need to watch your sugar levels, right?
Joe says
Joy, Ive seen sporadic case reports noting that glucoamine might decrease insulin sensitivity which in turn might cause blood sugar to rise. Since I don’t see diabetics who take glucosamine dropping life flies, I think its fairly rare but I would agree its wise to keep an eye on blood sugar levels (and hemoglobin A1c levels too).
joy says
Hanna, it’s a hit and miss for everyone…I’ve tried tons of supps for the OA I deal with and aging hasn’t helped it get better either…sorry but the truth…at this point FOR ME, acupuncture maintenance and mesotherapy injections from rheumy are helping me along with Anatabloc…I’ve been dealing with OA since 18 and I’ll be 75 soon….advil and higher doses of MSM to calm the pain and a lot of other stuff. glucosomine never did it for me….
Hanna says
Hi, my name is Hanna, I’m suffering from joint pain in all my left side for more than two years and it’s just getting worst: my foot, knee, elbow, shoulder and hand are very painful and it’s been hard to do anything I’ve tried a lot of supplements but nothing seems to help, I was about to buy this Arthri D because I’m desperate I just need to be able to do stuff and not worry about the pain, but after I read your article I will not waste my money on something doesn’t work!!
But please if you have any advise for me I could use your help.
FYI: I did injections,PT, MRI, I’ve seen an orthopedic, Neurologist, I’ve done a nerve test everything comes back normal!!!
Please help!:-(
Thanks:-)
Joe says
Hanna, I wish I had some helpful information for you. Honestly Im not qualified to know what your problems might be or how to help your pain. As for whether Arthri D might help or not, I am not sure. As I said in my review, Im open to the possibility that it might help some people but that would depend on what your condition might be. if you try it, you should know in a month or two if its going to work or not. In addition to that I do hope you continue to seek out other doctors who may be able to help you find the answers you seek. You didnt say you saw a rheumatologist (doctor who specializes in arthritis). that might be a good first step if you have not already done this.
joy says
Also cut back big time on sugar and carbs re: joints and much more for our health. Try to keep as alkaline as you can, all acidic foods give us more grief….
Look at the alkaline/acidic food charts there are many online.. Egg yolks are high in acidic inflammation making…Greens are your very best bet and alkaline water….
GT13 says
Joy
The case for alkaline diets seems highly implausible. The promotion of them by the sCAM community, attributing multiple unsubstantiated benefits makes me even more sceptical.
I recommended looking at the link below
http://josephinejones.wordpress.com/2011/09/05/sunday-times-promotes-quack-diet/
I hope your are as pain free as possible
GT
Don says
WOW! Great article! Thanks Joe you saved us a lot of time, money and disappointment from false hope.
Joe says
Don, Anytime, glad to help 🙂
larry says
Joe, I saw this on a infomercial and for some reason it got my attention, unlike many other infomercials for arthritis supplements. I am 50. I started with osteoarthritis when I was 36 in my feet. When I was 40 i started noticing pain in my left hip. By 41 the pain was enough for me to go to an orthopedic and get it checked. I had osteo in my left hip and my right as well. That of a 70 year old.
Because I was younger I was told to wait until I couldn’t bare the pain before considering a replacement. I tried everything from physical therapy, to acupuncture. The only RX that worked was VIOX which I didn’t like because of all the side effects. I only took it when the pain was unbearable. At age 45 I had my left hip replaced. Since age 41 it has spread to every joint in my body, neck, hands knees, you name it.
Now to the MAIN POINT. I purchase Arthri D3 and started taking it. It was about 2 weeks in when I noticed I wasn’t complaining about my joints. I was feeling 200% better by 3 weeks. I am probably one of the most skeptical people I know, so believe me when i say this works.
I did a lot of research online, and like yourself, I had a very hard time finding any negative comments on this product, only positive from almost all users, and either neutral or positive from medical professionals. Money has been tight and I have stopped using it for the past 2 weeks and I notice the difference big time. I will be purchasing more tomorrow. For about $50 a month its worth every penny to me. I know I sound like a commercial, but im just thankful I can walk,go up and down stairs, use my hands without pain.
My brother and sister both told me I should be careful. That RX drugs have been tested and these supplements have not. But from reading everything it seems most of these ingredients have been used for a while with not side effects. And most RX drugs have side effects which include stroke, heart attack, cancer or death. I think I will stick with this:) Hope Im not being ignorant but Ive always trusted my gut and instincts. I will need another hip replacement down the road as well as knees, but for now, Im feeling great. thanks
larry
Joe says
Larry I’m really glad you say Arthi D is helping you! Keep getting prostate checkups by your urologist. I still don’t know what to make of the chondroitin sulfate/prostate cancer relationship.
larry says
Joe, you just showed your true colors to me. Your first response was to NOT justify my experience with ArthriD by you saying, “I;m really glad “YOU SAY” Arthis D is helping you!. As if to say I was lying or making this up. Why not just say Im really glad arthri d is helping you. I went back and read over your article and didnt find anything about chondroitin sulfate/prostate cancer relationship. I also looked on WebMd and found nothing there as well as other websites.
Sounds to me like your trying to scare me with those comments. It’s quite obvious to me now that you are against this product after reading over all of your replies again, You have steered many people away from this product. Not sure what your motive is, but its quite obvious you have one and that is a shame. It seems I am the only one here who has tried it.
I asked my aunt who is a registered nurse about the ingredients and she said seemed like vitamins and most basic things used for treating arthritis already for years. She saw no harm or reason not to use it. I also asked 2 pharmacists about it and they felt the same as well as my MD. I will say I take no other Meds. Im not allergic to shell fish either. Have you tried this Joe? I mean being your telling all these people it doesnt work. What do you base this on.
I tried it and it works for me. Judge for yourself. Look on the Web people for other reviews from people who have tried it. I found it very hard to find anything negative about this product, but plenty of people who benefited from it. Usually you find negative comments on the Web.
We all know big pharma doesnt want anyone to think any of these natural products work. Well some do. People have to put more faith in themselves and do their due diligence based without bias from bloggers. I think if 30 people posted to you that this was helping them you would still say it doesnt work or come up with some reasons to scare them.
Very sad Joe. How do you sleep. I really feel bad for your readers who put all their trust in you.
Joe says
Larry, I really think you are reading way too much into my words. You say Arthra D helped and you and say that’s great.
As for chondroitin sulfate, The research is there and its mentioned on other sites. I don’t know why you could not find anything about chondroitin sulfate and prostate cancer when you looked but here are other sources that discuss it:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chondroitin-sulfate/NS_patient-chondroitin/DSECTION=safety
http://www.berkeleywellness.com/supplements/other-supplements/article/ask-experts-chondroitin-sulfate
http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/chondroitin
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189303
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22349653
Im honest enough to say I dont know what is going on with the association of chrondroitin sulfate and prostate cancer. I can only say I would not take it until a human trial is done to prove no association exists. Ive talked to a few doctors about this and they are not aware of this research either.
If you think I’m in the pocket of big pharma or have a “big pharma adgenda” you are wrong. I sleep well at night (unless I have caffeine past 4pm, then not so well).
joy says
Hi guys, I don’t take the Arthri D, as I have more concern about glucose levels taking Glucosomine. On the chondrotin, years ago I read a listing of the most effective joint supps out there and chondrotin was at the bottom of the list…
I’d be more happy with boswellia and turmeric which I also take daily, I watch the turmeric as it can irritate the stomach and I don’t need that. I take anatabloc and recently lost it’s effect on me, so back to acupuncture to help get my body back to where it was when I started on anatabloc. It didn’t lose all it’s effect but some, I have a MESSY back issue, very messy.
Some yrs back a doc tried to sell me his glucosomine product as “his” knee injections did nothing, I told him about the glucose connection and he made no comment…did not deny what I said…
So check blood sugar levels regularly too.
larry says
And by the way Joe, its not $99 a bottle. Only $50 from amazon or Calcomp nutrition. And I am the proof that it works plus many others you can find on the net.
Joe says
Larry, it was $99 when I wrote my review.
GT13 says
Larry, one anecdote is not evidence, therefore multiple anecdotes are obviously not evidence either. Before attributing improvements in your condition to this product or any other intervention I strongly suggest you look into placebo effects, recall bias and regression to mean.
The infomercial pitching Arthri D includes classic elements beloved of SCAM including unsubstantiated anecdotes of success, a ‘natural’ product, vilification of ‘big pharma’ and supposedly ‘risk free’ purchase
larry says
The only bias I have seen are at this site. All in a negative way. It works for me and that’s all I care about. That’s a great long term placebo. And I purchase one bottle at a time. Reality of it is I will not respond any more and waste negative energy. I don’t need to fight or defend what works for me. I have done that enough over the past 20 years with osteoarthritis. Good luck to all.
Joe says
Larry, I’ve never been negative to you. If you say Arthri D is helping you, I’m happy for you. I think most people are turned off by the Arthi D infomercial more than anything else. As for me, since there isn’t any good proof for Arthri D itself, I can only look at the research on its ingredients and of those, there was only one ingredient that had most of the human evidence. That doesn’t mean all the ingredients dont produce a better effect – they might – I’d just like to see proof (published peer reviewed study). Regardless,I hope you continue to benefit from the product.
Socorro says
My mom suffers from arthritis (she is 84 and has high blood pressure) and I have been looking for some kind of relief and have not been successful. I know she takes 1000mg of some sort of drug (narco?). I was listening to the infomercial and almost bought the Arthri-D but hesitated until I read the reviews. Is there anything my mom can take to alleviate her pain? She walks and monitors her food intake and drinks water but her pain is excruciating (almost daily). She will be going to a physical therapist today.
Joe says
Socorro, hopefully the physical therapy can help. Tell the PT that you are looking for exercises to help her arthritis feel better. exercise may make her arthritis feel worse at first but research does show exercise is good for helping arthritis (and high blood pressure too!). You didn’t say what arthritis your mom has. The most common type is osteoarthritis and if she has that, I feel the evidence is strongest for glucosamine sulfate. You can ask the PT what type of arthritis your mom has if your not sure. in my review of Anatabloc, people are reporting that it helps their arthritis pain. Im unsure if it would help your mom or not. I think asking her pharmasist /doctor about anatabloc is best first, if she is going to try it. Here is my review of Anatabloc if you want more info.
joy says
I’ve had so much PT in my later years and I’m 75 soon, but do my own stretching daily, there are a LOT of stretches one can do and it’s important.
I have HBP under control so she needs to get that controlled, hopefully she is under doc’s care.
Acupuncture has helped me a lot, Mesotherapy injections and Prolotherapy can help too, these are all alternative treatments and thank goodness my rheumy does all of them…
joy says
Arthritis hits us all before it’s over I believe, some get attacked early in life and others later and many along the way. I’ve never taken the Arthri D, but take some Turmeric and Boswellia daily and since Jan take Anatabloc for chronic inflammatory pain….there is a long post on Anatabloc here on Joe’s sites….
Watch turmeric as it can mess with gastro system, so caution.
Eileen says
Thank you for the research and review. You just saved my husband and me from wasting our money. He has severe OA in his shoulders, back and hip and is under pain management and multiple cardiac meds. Thank you for the info on med interactions I will just keep taking my supplements and hope for the best with my knees. I should know better than to watch an infomercial!
Joe says
Eileen, glad to help. Try stretching your hamstrings. it might help your knees. if your husband is able to do “rotator cuff exercises” this might help his shoulder pain. A physical therapist or athletic trainer can advise him best on what these exercises are.
Maggie says
I’ve been suffering from awful knee pain for the past few weeks, so when I saw an infomercial on arthritis pain listed this afternoon I thought I’d watch it — I never, ever, watch these things, but my pain said give it a go — I listened to the guy for about 10 minutes. My first thought was “how great”, but then his enthusiasm sounded a little manic, and I was no longer a wishful believer. I Googled Arthri D, and came upon your website. Thank you. I wish it was true.
f there was some miracle drug to take that wasn’t just a pain killer I’d happily pay $99 a bottle. Unfortunately, there isn’t. I think exercise and a proper diet is probably the only way to go. For me, I’ll stop walking up and down the 1 in 3 hills around me, and stick to the level ground … less pain. Thank you for your research.
Joe says
Maggie, glad you found me, try stretching your hamstrings (the muscles behind your leg). Sometimes that can help the pain go away.
Anonymous says
Thumb arthritis hit me about 25 yrs ago and the rest of my body was hit with OA at age 18 (lower back)…it’s a hit and miss with everything out there, so one has to “try” everything they can.
Anatabloc has helped me a lot but with age 75 soon things don’t reverse, for me anyway. My hands are my BEST part of my body and Anatabloc has helped there I know, WISH it could change the body structure…hip replacement messed me up big time in 2010….
Some take pharma drugs, but I’ve had BAD reaction from one in the 80’s and won’t go there again…advil helps me too. Since Anatabloc I take less advil. joy
Joe: email and name areas don’t work….
Joe says
Anonymous, interesting about the name/email areas. Others have been able to use them. Thanks for the heads up. Ill look into it
Anonymous says
Joe, what would you recomend for joint pain specially in my hands, I recently started to feel the pain and am scared is arthri. Thank you
Joe says
Anonymous, I think its best to ease your stress by going to the doctor and seeing what is causing your hand pain. If its arthritis, then at least you know and you don’t have to worry about it anymore. So, I say go to your doctor. If it is arthritis, take a look at glucosamine and maybe Anatabloc and may be Zyflamend No guarantees though. This is why I really feel getting an answer to your hand pain is the best first step you can take.
Patrica says
I was going to order this product but decided against it after I read through your material. These have sulfates in them and I am allergic to them. I was so hoping that I might find something for my painful knees and back. Guess Arthri-D isn’t it!
Joe says
Patricia, glad I was able to help – and that you were able to find me on the web. Take a look at my review of Anatabloc The evidence leaves something to be desired but there are a lot of people commenting who are saying its helping them. No promises but I’m intrigued with some of the comments.
Virginia says
Joe, Thank you so much for such a well researched article. Before succumbing to these info commercials which are so compelling, I now try to find out if there are any reviews on the products. You’ve saved me from investing in a product that has no scientific data behind it.
Joe says
Virginia, you are very welcome! Im happy to help and hope you didn’t have to search too hard to find me 🙂
Jean says
Wondering about the sulfate in this product as I’m allergic to sulfa…sulfides…don’t know if its the same thing. Also allergic to shrimp but not all shell fish?
Joe says
Jean, I wouldn’t take the chance. Arthri D also says not to use their product if you are allergic to shell fish. Based on that alone, I would not risk it.
Anonymous says
I just called the number to order and it does not work sooooo……
Joe says
Really that’s interesting!
Louise says
The number does work, I just ordered some as my nan had it and it helped her.
I have early onset rheumatoid arthritis and have been taking this for a while. it helps me. but each to they’re own I suppose.
Joe says
Thanks Louise, happy it helped you!
Ray Feindt says
Joe, enjoyed the dialogue on this topic as I’m new to the joint issue myself and what I’ve been told initially isn’t very heartening so I’m doing my research to deal with OA in the knee. Also, sorry if this isn’t the best place to inquire about research about another product but wasn’t sure where to ask. What info do you have about a similar product called Osteojuv? Initial internet reviews seem ok.
Thanks
Ray
Joe says
Ray, thanks I’m glad you found the review and comments helpful. I looked up OsteoJuv for you. Their website says it contains glucosamine but it doesn’t say which type it has.
While most supplements have glucosamine HCL, the best evidence Ive seen is on glucosamine sulfate. Its not a slam dunk but its better than for glucosamine HCL. The site also said it has hyluronic acid which in my opinion, I dont feel does anything. its used in supplements because evidence showed injections of HA might help but thats not the same as oral supplements.
It also has chondroitin which does have some evidence but I admit to being overly cautious about this ingredient given research possibly linking it to prostate cancer. Here is my chondroitin prostate cancer review in case you missed it.
It also has gelatin, which has a little evidence it might help but isn’t gelatin basically “Jell-O”?
It may have other stuff but thats basically what the website says it has. Based on what I saw, my opinion is that osteojuv is an expensive glucosamine supplement. Osteojuv is $57.99 vs a bottle of glucosamine sulfate which is a lot cheaper. Here is a bottle of glucosamine sulfate I found on Amazon for about $20
Read those terms and conditions on the website if you order it. if you order it, you are going to be put auto-renew where they will send it to you each month. As for who makes it, at the bottom of the Terms and conditions page they list a company called “M2 Products Group” with this address: M2 Products Group 711 Commerce Way Suite 5 Jupiter, FL. 33458. They dont show up on google street view but I looked up the webisite on Whois.com (which gives info about websites) and saw that the osteojuv website was created august 2013.
Here is the file http://www.whois.com/whois/osteojuv.com
I hope some of this helps Ray.
TIM says
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION ON ARTHRI D I HAVE SEVERE ARTHRITIS PAIN I WAS THINKING OF BUYING IT I DONT NO WANT TO DO NOW
Joe says
Tim, you are very welcome. Im happy you were able to find me.
Bill Brinklow says
Tim, have you tried Cherries or Cherry juice concentrate, you can buy this in health food stores..
Joe says
Bill, I have a review of tart cherry juice in case you or tim missed it. people are saying some interesting things about it.
joy says
Joe, I wonder about all these forms of glucosamine and many many take this glucosamine…some yrs back when I was trying it, I read somewhere that glucosamine “can” raise blood sugar…glucose is a sugar, right?
I was seeing an ortho MD who was giving them those HA injections, which did NOT work for me, I did them twice, and then he offered to sell me a bottle of their glucosamine and I told him what I read about the sugar issue and he did NOT deny it….
Also, many yrs ago I read a chart of all the joint products and chondrotin was on the BOTTOM of the list as effective…
I’ve taken many/MOST of the ingredients in the product you are speaking of and none really did much if anything…I personally take 4-5K of D3 per day as found in late 2006 how deficient I was….MANY many are deficient in Vit D, have no clue and their docs keep them in the dark too…I could go on and on with that issue….anyway, the product is NOT something I would look into.
Joe says
Joy, yes there is some evidence that glucosamine might alter blood sugar levels (there is glucose in glucos-amine). Ive known diabetics who have taken it though so I’m not sure of big of an issue it is. Still, its something diabetics need to b consider with their doctor.
As for chondroitin sulfate, I’m not surprised it was at the bottom of the list you saw. As I said, I’m still on the fence about; it but its not a product I’d immediately think of if we were discussing osteoarthritis.
frank marinelli says
joe about cherry &cerry juice its helping me great deal with gout
Joe says
Frank, Thsts great news. I’m ready glad to hear this 🙂
The Todd says
I’m going to try to express my opinion while being as empathetic possible. But there is a big misconception out there that supplements are natural and drugs are chemicals that at harmful and somehow different. Supplements are nothing more than “could be”pharmaceuticals with the exception of the fact that they don’t go through the extensive trials and FDA approval process required to even be introduced into the market.
They are controlled so that there are dosage guidelines and the products are the same each time you take them. Where do you think pharmaceuticals come from. They are organic compounds found in nature and then slightly modified in order to optimize their efficacy, absorption and decreased side effects by making synthesizing compounds with slight alterations in their shape making them more likely to target the correct receptor and create the desired effect.
Side effects for the most part are caused by how our body functions based on the right “keys” fitting into the right “locks” signaling a chain of events where the lock and key theory applies to each step.
Poly pharmacy, especially in the elderly is an issue that is being addressed by bringing many PhD pharmacologists on staff to streamline medication regiments to reduce counter productivity and adding multiple meds with different indications but similar affinities for the wrong targets.
A good example are the anti cholinergic effects of many drugs. I looked up this arthri-D because I briefly saw a man being interviewed who was promoting it. And much of what he said was way off base. Many of you mention that you or someone you know takes 5-10 different drugs. You might want to take a look at the list of ingredients in this supplement and think about the fact that there is no difference between taking this and taking prescribed drugs specific to disease.
There are a great number of chemicals (and yes natural and chemical are not distinctions) combined in this supplement with questionable efficacy and no data as to long term effects. The truth is there are many more pharmaceutical treatments left to be discovered and many of those that exist arose from old herbal medicine utilized many years ago.
There are issues with over prescribing meds. But there is a major problem with cases of liver toxicity resulting from combinations of so called non regulated natural supplements. Think about a few natural compounds that are deadly when ingested and then also think about other drugs like warfarin (rat-poison) that saves countless lives each year.
I’m not against supplements and I take one of two of them and I also take a couple prescribed drugs. But be careful not to be naive enough to think that supplements are somehow natural and harmless. It is far from the truth. John Hopkins has an app called “about herbs” which is free and that has an extensive catalog of the mechanisms pharmacology and interactions of com only used herbs. I recommend getting it if your are going to experiment with so called natural supplements.
There are a lot of good ones out there but be careful when mixing them and especially when taking a supplement with this many ingredients in it. I guarantee if u type the list of them into about herbs you will find many dangerous interactions leading to most commonly liver disease.
Your liver is for the most part the first victim of everything you choose to put into your body. And there are countless reports of fatal liver toxicity as a result of chronic supplement use.
Kim says
Hey Joe, Happy Friday to you & your family! I have also been getting a lot of calls on this stuff. Your research is amazing btw! My concern once again, is that there are herbs in these products that could have major implications with other medicines. I asked the company for research and never got any. So who knows what is really in the product once again.
Again, you and I know both know that a healthy diet plays a huge role in our health and with any ailments you have, cut out the junk foods, stress, drink a lot of water, get to the gym, and get quality sleep and your body will love you more than you know. 🙂 Kim
Joe says
Kim, that’s ironic you’ve been looking into the product. If you ever hear anything back from the company let me know 🙂
Ray Risner says
Joe, I have sent you a comment on this and cherry juice – having trouble activating and confirming – did you get my comment
Ray Risner
Joe says
Ray, I dont see any comments other than this for you unfortunately. If you tell me the trouble your having maybe I can try to help.
mtman2 says
Yes this style overview is very important and appreciated.
Black+Bing Cherry juice or even tea from bark and twigs does seem to be good for Gout. What the true veracity is from an overview source and implications for arthritis relief would be appreciated. Thanks~!
Joe says
MtMan2, Ive never heard of that recipe for gout relieve. I do have a review of tart cherry juice and people there have said that it has helped them from arthritis pain. Here is my review of tart cherry juice.
Bea K. says
I’m trying to understand why it ALWAYS seems to be that almost everything that has to do with ‘herbs’ and other supplements are so ‘bad’, but the man-made drugs (which seem to do so much more damage and even death) are pushed no matter what the cost? I just don’t get it, especially in light of what I’ve seen these ‘man-made’ drugs do to so many of the people that I know and love (yes, they did have medical issues going on, but it seems right after they were given these drugs, their health went down hill and they passed away that much faster)?
My mom started out with a blood pressure pill and seemed to do just fine, after that more medications (six to be exact) were added and she was NEVER the same again. The elderly (like my mom) are given so many different meds to take it’s scary beyond belief, but it seems better they keep taking the meds that supposedly fix one thing, but end up tearing down more healthy ones.
Something tells me that rather than get together for the good of their patients and find a real fix without the use of the majority of these messey drugs, the medical profession would prefer to keep them on the drugs, because otherwise there’d be NO money for any one to make in the long run. I so look forward to the day when sickness, taking meds, and even death will be done away with once and for all.
Joe says
Bea, I feel your frustration and I’m with you 100% on that day when death becomes a thing of the past. My own personal opinion is that its sometimes easier to give someone a medication (or a supplement) rather than say that the best thing for them is to eat a little better (i.e. fruits and vegetables) and exercise a few days a week. I think if more people did that, it would reduce many chronic diseases (and improve a few that they have now) and help us be healthier as we get older, resulting in fewer medications and also lengthen our lives.
Frustrated Baby Nurse says
I hear what you are saying regarding improving diet & getting exercise, & I don’t like taking conventional medicines nor expensive supplements either, however, I SUFFER from not only fibromyalgia but osteoarthritis in most of my joints, in fact in my knees so badly they are wanting to do a knee replacement on me–I am only 65–so I know diet & exercise is the key.
my point is at at certain pain level it’s just not possible! I’m to exhausted & in to much pain to either shop for the good food I need even IF I felt like cooking it, so forget the exercise too then b/c if you can’t shop or cook how do you exercise!
I do appreciate your review of this product mostly b/c I know there’s hundreds of thousands of folks just like me who will spend what little resources they have on bogus stuff like this & many more who will take those horribly dangerous drugs talked about in the infomercial destroying their bodies even more! I just want people like you, doctors, charlatans, & real “alternative medicine” practitioners to know that yes, we know diet & exercise probably would to a large extent give us some relief IF (& that’s a BIG IF) only we could feel good enough to practice it.
We are really hurting out here & all most people (not you obviously) want to do is take advantage of our suffering so they can make the big money, at least you are trying to save us the money but telling me all I need to do is eat well & exercise gets me a little riled up.
Now logically I KNOW that’s not exactly what you’re saying but sitting here reading this while watching the hawker tell me this is finally the ONE THING that will help does irk me! I am an RN retired from an NICU (neonatal intensive care unit) so I am a little more informed than maybe some. I just know I’m VERY tired of feeling like people are saying I’m faking it!!
Joe says
Frustrated Baby Nurse, I’m very sorry to hear of the pain you are in and I’m equally sorry that you came away feeling that my message was that “all you had to do was exercise and eat well.” We both know that can help but, while it will improve health, it may not be the “pain-free answer” everyone seeks. But, if it does get the pain reduce to where you can deal with than that is a good thing. If traditional exercise is not possible, start with isometrics if you can. If you do need to lose weight, I’ll still implore you to do so because that will reduce stress on your knees which will help you get around better. I’d also say give physical therapy a try as we both know that might help too. My goal is you not get knee replacements if other less radical measures can help you, but if you need to get them replaced, then do so if it helps you be able to do the other things needed to get healthy. I know you are not “faking it.” I also know the pain hurts, but where there’s life there is hope.
joy says
Drugs and surgery that is what conventional medicine pushes….big profits and our medicine world is all about profit, the bottom line, sad but true.
I often WISH I had my original pain back before the hip replacement 3+ yrs ago, talk about more inflammation and a mess, that’s what I got.
Look at Prolotherapy BEFORE considering elective replacements and other surgery, please…..Prolo can help save us from those knives….
I’m using Great Lakes Hydrolysate Gelatin now, and asked Joe to review it here….it’s helping….but I’m a pretty big mess all since hip replacement….
DONNETTE JOLLY says
I I also look forward to the day when sickness and death will be no more according to gods word found at revelation chapter 21 verse 1-5. its far better than glucosamine and chondroitin put together and every other drugs.
Matt says
Hey Donnette, I agree with you 100%. But in the meantime it’s great that there are natural supplements, made from God’s creations, that can help us now.
Just wanted to point out to anyone looking at Arthri-D, that it’s the exact same thing as a supplement called Flex Protex D, which has been around a lot longer. I’ve been using Flex Protex since 2005, and I found it worked better than the drugs the doctor prescribed. Flex Protex D sells on eBay and Amazon for as little as around $20 a bottle, or even less if you buy a larger supply. And again, the ingredients are exactly the same.
Joe says
Here Flex Protex D is on Amazon too.
Kyle says
Joe, did you ever do a review of Flex Protex D?
Joe says
Kyle, not yet but if you know the ingredients just put them in the search box. If I ever covered them they will show up in other reviews I’ve written. I’ll add it to my list of things to look at.