Update 2/27/20. “Do you suffer from sugar cravings, inexplicable fatigue or bloating, anxiety or a “brain fog”? Fortunately, ProBio5 provides a solution to many of today's “mystery” symptoms.” Those are some of the words used to describe the Plexus Slim ProBio5, a healthy gut, probiotic supplement. Interestingly, weight loss is not specifically mentioned in this list, although some may use it for weight loss in conjunction with Plexus Slim (the original pink drink). So, does ProBio5 help weight loss and does it help Plexus Slim work better? Does it have any side effects? Let's see what we can discover. See the review of plexus slim current ingredients, Joyome anti-wrinkle cream and Plexus Hunger Control.
ProBio5 Benefits
According to the Plexus website, ProBio 5 is supposed to provide these benefits:
- Helps keep intestinal yeast in balance
- Helps support a healthy intestinal tract
- Supports healthy digestion
- Helps improve natural response to imbalance
- Promotes healthy bacteria counts and pH levels in the gut
What Does The Name Mean?
My guess is the “pro” refers to probiotic. The Bio5 in the name refers to the 5 different types of probiotic bacteria in the supplement.
ProBio5 Ingredients
The name “ProBio” gives a hint that this is a probiotic supplement. The “5” in the name tells us that there are 5 different types of probiotic bacteria in the product. Interestingly, there is more in the product than just probiotics. According to the label I have, 1 capsule contains the following ingredients:
Proprietary blend (200 mg) | % DV NV |
Protease | |
Peptizyme | |
Cellulase | |
Chitosinase (from bacillus Sp ) | |
Probiotic Blend (100 mg) | NA |
Lactobacillus | |
Lactobacillus Acidophillus | |
Bacillus Sporogenes | |
Bacillus Longum | |
S. Boulardi | |
Antioxidant Blend | |
Vitamin C 150 mg | 250 % |
Grape Seed Extract 25 mg | N/A |
Vitamin B6 25 mg | 50% |
N/A = no daily value established
Other ingredients listed on the label include gelatin, water yeast and brown rice powder.
Note. There is a new ingredients list. See below for a comparison.
Updated ProBio 5 Label
Since this review was created the Nutrition Facts Label of Probio5 has changed. Here is the label as it appears now side-by-side with the original Nutrition Facts labeling:
ProBio 5 New Nutrition Facts (1 capsule) | ProBio 5 Original Nutrition Facts (1 capsule) |
---|---|
Vitamin C 150mg (250%DV) | Proprietary blend (200 mg) consisting of the following: |
Vitamin B6 2.5mg (125 % DV) | Protease |
Proprietary Enzyme Blend (200 mg) consisting of the following: | Peptizyme |
Proteases | Cellulase |
Chitosanase (from Bacillus coagulans) | Chitosinase (from bacillus sp ) |
Cellulase | Probiotic Blend (100 mg) consisting of the following: |
Seropeptase (as Peptizyme SP) | Lactobacillus |
Probiotic Blend 100 mg consisting of the following: | Lactobacillus Acidophillus |
Bacillus coagulans | Bacillus Sporogenes |
Lactobacillus acidophilus | Bacillus Longum |
Bifidobacterium longum | S. Boulardi |
Lactobacillus plantarum | Antioxidant Blend consisting of the following: |
Saccharomyces boulardii | Vitamin C 150 mg (250% DV) |
Grape seed extract 25 mg | Grape Seed Extract 25 mg |
Vitamin B6 25 mg (50% DV) |
As can be seen, some ingredients have remained the same, some have changed and also how some of the ingredients are listed have changed. Note, further below I list another table that compares Probio 5 ingredients. This table is the CURRENT ingredients list. It supersedes the table you see below.
I'll leave up the old table below for those who are doing their own research.
ProBio5 Research
Since the original “pink drink” formula (AKA Plexus Slim. Click this link for my review of plexus slim) had boasted an unpublished study that's been used to substantiate its effectiveness, I wondered if there might be some sort of evidence to support ProBio5? If there is research, I didn’t see any studies about it on the PlexusWorldWide.com.
Likewise, searching for clinical databases for:
- “Probio5”
No relevant studies showed up.
In addition, when I searched Google for “Probio5 research” no relevant information showed up either. This says to me that ProBio5 ―itself ―probably has no published, peer-reviewed proof that it helps people lose weight or alters bacteria flora.
That said, the idea that certain types of bacteria might help people lose weight (or gain weight) is not without some evidence. Intriguing research appears to show that:
- Overweight mice have different bacteria than skinny mice.
- Bacteria from overweight people transferred to skinny mice, makes mice gain weight.
- Bacteria from skinny people transferred to skinny mice kept mice skinny.
- Bacteria from skinny mice might be less able to breakdown food than bacteria from overweight mice.
- Baby mice, given low doses of antibiotics, have a greater chance of being overweight.
For more info about these types of experiments, see these reviews:
- The microbes in your gut may be making you fat or keeping you thin (WashingtonPost.com)
- How Gut Bacteria Help Make Us Fat and Thin (ScientificAmerican.com)
Just as intriguing is this 2014 study titled Exercise and associated dietary extremes impact on gut microbial diversity which noted that people who exercised intensely (Rugby players) had more of a particular type of bacteria that may play a role in weight loss. These people also had reduced cellular inflammation as well.
For more on this study, see these articles:
- Exercise and the ‘Good’ Bugs in Our Gut (New York Times)
Results such as these, might be the reason for the idea that probiotic supplements can help people lose weight.
But, since I'm not able to find any research on ProBio5 itself, I want to see if there has been any weight loss research on the 5 types of bacteria in the product. If there is, then this might lend evidence to whether it works or not.
Let's do that now.
Proprietary Enzyme Blend
According to the label, there are 4 different types of enzymes in the proprietary enzyme. They are:
Protease
This is a protein-digesting enzyme. The prefix “pro” refers to protein and, as a rule, science words that end in “ase” is an enzyme. We need proteases to help us digest proteins.
Peptizyme
This is a trademarked name for Serratia Peptidase, another protein-digesting enzyme.
Cellulase
This is an enzyme that breaks down cellulose, a compound that makes up the cell walls of not only microorganism but also of fruits and vegetables. Humans don’t naturally make the cellulase enzyme. As my 12th grade biology teacher once said, many years ago, if we made cellulase, we could digest paper since cellulose is in that too!
Chitosinase
This is an enzyme that digests chitin, another type of carbohydrate. In addition to being part of some microorganisms, chitin also forms the outside skeleton of insects and crustaceans.
Ironically, some weight loss supplements contain chitin, such as a product called Chitosan.
ProBio5 Enzymes
According to the Plexus Slim website, they say they did this because fungi and yeast are composed of protein, chitin, and cellulose. The enzymes, they say, help break down these microorganisms, which in turn help friendly, probiotic bacteria flourish.
On the surface, this might make some sense. But, where's the proof? Evidence that these 4 enzymes, reduce yeast or fungal growth – or help people lose weight – could not be located.
In this 2010 article from Newsweek, titled How Intestinal Bacteria May Make You Fat, it's stated that overweight people may have bacteria that work too well―in other words, they are better at digesting food (and thus, absorbing calories) than the bacteria in skinnier people.
If this turns out to be true, would adding enzymes that digest protein and carbs, cause people to breakdown― and absorb― more calories? Would this cause people to gain weight?
I have no idea.
I mention this not to scare anybody but only to give people something to think about. Remember, the weight loss research ― so far that I'm aware of ― does not appear to incorporate protein and carb digesting enzymes.
As such, I don’t think they are needed.
For what it's worth, I personally, I think the enzymes in Probios5 would be destroyed by the acidity of the stomach soon after they are taken. I don’t think the enzymes would make it to the large intestine, where the good and bad bacteria reside.
Probiotic Blend
Now let's look at the bacteria in Probio5. Specifically, I want to search to see if there is any research linking any of these bacteria types to weight loss. If Probio5 works, I think the answer is held with these bacteria.
Lactobacillus
Probios 5 now contains both Lactobacillus acidophilus and Lactobacillus plantarum.
The first thing we need to know is that there are many types of Lactobacillus bacteria. Plexus Slim does not tell us which type is in Probio5. This is important because it makes reviewing it difficult. With that in mind ―and focusing only on human research ― I searched the national library of medicine for:
- Lactobacillus overweight
- Lactobacillus obesity
- Lactobacillus weight loss
I found the following research that may or may not be relevant:
One animal study noted that Lactobacillus acidophilus injected into animals promoted some weight loss.
Another animal study noted that a specific strain of Lactobacillus plantarum (called “K21” strain) helped weight loss.
Plexus doesn't have this bacteria, but a 2014 study titled Effect of Lactobacillus rhamnosus CGMCC1.3724 supplementation on weight loss and maintenance in obese men and women. In this investigation, overweight men and women were followed for 24 weeks (6 months). When combined with a moderate reduction in calories, the women who used a Lactobacillus rhamnosus supplement lost more weight and fat than women who were given a placebo.
Here is Lactobacillus Rhamnosus on Amazon.
This is a very interesting study but I don’t know if Probio5 contains Lactobacillus rhamnosus or not?
The study also notes that it was only women who lose weight. Men didn’t lose weight.
As was pointed out in this 2014 segment from 60 Minutes, there is a growing consensus that men and women might react differently to some medications. Might this same thing might also be true for supplements?
Lactobacillus Acidophilus
Focusing on only human studies, I searched clinical databases for these terms:
- Lactobacillus acidophilus obesity
- Lactobacillus acidophilus weight loss
- Lactobacillus acidophilus overweight
Human studies linking Lactobacillus acidophilus to weight loss cannot be located.
Ironically, a review of research it was noted that Lactobacillus acidophilus was associated with gaining weight (not weight loss)!
That's weird…
To be fair, in another study, the researchers concluded that:
“there is no evidence that consumption of lactobacilli or probiotics, in general, would contribute to obesity in humans.”
The lead author of this study is associated with Active Nutrition and Dupont Nutrition and Health, which make probiotic supplements.
Bacillus Sporogenes
I searched the National Library of Medicine for these words:
- Bacillus Sporogenes weight loss
- Bacillus Sporogenes obesity
- Bacillus Sporogenes overweight
No studies showed up for any of these search parameters.
Bacillus Longum
Searching clinical databases for these words:
- Bacillus Longum weight loss
- Bacillus Longum overweight
- Bacillus Longum obesity
revealed no studies of these bacteria and weight loss.
S. Boulardi
Also called Saccharomyces Boulardii. Saccharomyces boulardii is a type of yeast.
As I reviewed this ingredient, I discovered that the name “Boulardi” is spelled wrong on the ProBio5 label and on Plexus Slim website. I say this because when I searched online for “S Boulardi” all the search results were for “S Boulardii” (there is an extra “i” in the name). Nobody is perfect and I make spelling errors all the time too. I'm sure the company will eventually fix this.
Searching clinical databases for these words:
- Saccharomyces Boulardii weight loss
- Saccharomyces Boulardii overweight
- Saccharomyces Boulardii obesity
In study ,S boulardii was associated with weight loss and reduce fat mass in diabetic mice. Human evidence could not be located.
ProBio 5 Antioxidant Blend
This blend consists of the following ingredients:
- Vitamin C
- Grape seed extract
- Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine)
I can't think of a reason why antioxidants would be needed in a probiotic supplement, except maybe (I'm guessing here…) to help prevent spoilage (and death) of probiotic bacteria?
Grape seeds do contain chemicals (nutrients) called anthocyanins. To be sure, these are healthy things to consume, but some websites report that they inhibit the growth of lactobacillus acidophilus ―one of the main probiotics in ProBio5.
If this is the case, then why is it in this supplement? This is of course, assuming that anthocyanins are the extract used in ProBio5. I'll assume they are not using this extract. Again, what is the extract of grape seeds they are using?
Plexus Slim is also now supposed to help gut health.
ProBio5 New Formula
Before this review was posted, it was discovered that there was a new ProBio5 ingredients list on the Plexus website. Below is the old formula (which I listed above) and the new formula side-by-side so you can see the differences.
New Formula |
Old Formula |
Proprietary Blend (200 mg) | Proprietary Blend (200 mg) |
Proteases | Protease |
Chitosanase (from bacillus coagulans) | Peptizyme |
Cellulase | Cellulase |
Peptizyme SP | Chitosainase (from Bacillus) |
Probiotic Blend (100 mg) | Probiotic Blend (100 mg) |
Bacillus Coagulans | Lactobacillus |
L. Acidophilus | Lactobacillus acidophilus |
B. Longum | Bacillus Longum |
L. Plantarum | Bacillus Sporogenes |
S. Boulardi | S. Boulardi |
Antioxidant Blend | Antioxidant Blend |
Vitamin C (150 mg) | Vitamin C (150 mg) |
Vitamin B6 (2.5 mg) | Grape Seed Extract (25 mg) |
Grape Seed Extract 25 mg | Vitamin B6 (2.5 mg) |
Red color indicates differences between old and new formulas.
Looking at these labels side by side, the following things stand out to me in the new label:
1. Proteases (plural) replaces Protease (singular).
2. Chitoasanase and Peptizyme have switched positions on the new list. Peptizyme is now called Peptizyme SP.
3. Bacillus Coagulans replaces Lactobacillus. The label also indicates that Bacillus Coagulans contributes both lactobacillus sporogenes and bacillus sporogenes to the product. I searched for weight loss studies for both of these bacteria but could not find any.
4. L. Plantarum replaces Bacillus Sporogenes (why?)
5. There is a LOT less Vitamin B6 – down from 25 mg in the old formula to 2.5 mg in the new product.
6. S. Boulardii is still spelled incorrectly on the new label and website.
Does ProBio 5 Promote Healthy Gut Bacteria?
One of the claims for this supplement is that it's supposed to support a healthy intestinal tract. Does it? Well, there does not appear to be any clinical evidence on the supplement, so this makes knowing whether it does or doesn't, difficult. Let's say it does. The bigger question though is what is a “healthy gut?” What does that look like?
Most experts believe a healthy gut is one that contains a diversity of bacteria. In other words, the greater the number of different types of bacteria in our intestines, the healthier we tend to be.
Can you promote diversity by only eating 5 different types of bacteria?
I don't know.
How To Naturally Promote A Healthy Gut
Most experts on this topic agree that eating foods that contain fiber is a good way to promote a healthy gut. That's because bacteria love to eat fiber – and the more the better.
How Many Live Bacteria?
According to plexusworldwide.com, at the time the product was made, each capsule contains “2 billion probiotic live cells.”
But, this is when the product was made.
This is important and something to keep in mind when shopping for ANY probiotic supplements.
The number of live bacteria present when the supplement was made may not always be the same as what is present when you purchase the product.
How many bacteria are in the product after it's been sitting on a shelf for 6 months old – or 1 year?
ProBio 5 Spit Test
Some people may have heard of a spit test to see if they have high levels of yeast in the body. By spitting in a glass of water, it's said that people have too much yeast if the spit fell to the bottom of the glass, or if it had tendrils hanging below it (like tendrils of a jellyfish).
I've seen the spit test mentioned on several websites including the Dr. Oz website but according to this YouTube video, the spit test ―while quick to do― is not perfect. Several things might make it seem like we have an overgrowth of yeast, when we may not. The best way to know if you have an overgrowth of yeast or fungus is to get tested by your doctor.
Probios 5 Side Effects
The supplement is likely fine in healthy people. No major side effects in healthy people were known when this review was updated.
Here are some general things to consider when taking this supplement. This list is not complete.
- Start with less than recommended for the first week to see if you have any reactions
- Peptizyme (Serrapeptase) might have a blood thinner effect so it might interact with blood thinner medications. This effect is also mentioned on the ProBio5 label.
- Don’t take probiotic supplements if taking antibiotics.
- Stop taking at least 2 weeks before surgery unless your doctor says otherwise
- If pregnant or breastfeeding, talk to your doctor first. This is also mentioned on the ProBio5 label.
- Some research that vitamin C along with grape seed polyphenols might raise blood pressure. The study used more vitamin C than is in ProBio5 – as well as 1000 mg of grape polyphenols (that’s a lot). Since this is only one study its hard to know how relevant it is. talk to your doctor if you have high blood pressure.
- Those with immune system problems should speak to their doctor before taking any probiotic supplement. Weakened immune systems may not be able to handle additional microorganisms.
DoesProBios 5 Work?
Some may take this supplement for weight loss although the proof for its effectiveness could not be located. While some may take the supplement along with Plexus Slim (the pink drink), proof that they work better together can also not be located. Does ProBio5 alter gut health? This is also not known. It might or might not.
What do you think?
Esther says
I find it more helpful to look up each ingredient and see if there is any published research on it . There is a book called Brain Maker by Dr. David Perlmutter explaining his experience with probiotics. There seems to be growing evidence that gut health is very important. There are so many factors involved in weight gain and loss that any single product will NOT be the magic bullet. But, if you study you can learn what to do and what products to use to maximize your health.
Joe says
Esther, there does indeed appear to be a link between the bacteria that live inside us weight gain. It really is quite an interesting field of study.
Sunshine says
Five times I have tried to take ProBio5, each time was a month apart (took 4 capsules the first time, & rest 1 single capsule once each month). My experience was several hours later I started vomiting, and this increased to having flu like symptoms that lasted for 2-3 days. I had low grade fever (between 101.3 to102.6), severe headache, lethargy, aches & pains in the upper body, & profuse vomiting. I talked to the ‘ambassador’, the first & second time and she told me a few people will get these flu like symptoms, wait a month & try it again (I’m not sure, but for me to get past the 60 day return). I have since found that 3 other people who have tried this have had the same problem (they purchased around the same time).
I found your site while trying to figure out why we were getting sick. My only conclusion would be the amount of B6 in the dosing (this was purchased with the label listing 2.5mg & it does state up to 4 capsules until desired results are achieved). I’m 58, my doctor suggested I take probiotics since I was taken more days between having a bowel movement
What would your opinion be of why we are experiencing these symptoms? Could it be we are exceeding the B6 levels for our age (we are all my age or a few years older).
Any light shed on this would be helpful.
Thank you
Joe says
Sunshine, while I cant be sure why some people are getting sick after taking them, I wonder if the probiotics might weaken the immune system, in cases where you were already battling an infection? In other words, might the bacteria in the probiotics overtax your immune system during times when they were already battling an infection?
There is a lot of evidence that some strains of probiotics might play roles in helping the immune system, weight loss and many other things. The issue is which strain of probiotics we are taking (and how much of it we are taking). Either way, at the end of the day, I’m not sure what’s going on with your symptoms. If you find any other explanations, let me know.
Anybody else feeling sick after taking Plexus ProBio 5?
Cassie says
I hate to see people fall for these things. Plexus is just an over priced supplement. You can get the same quality in most stores. For most, it’s just a placebo.
The difference with Plexus is that a pyramid scheme was added to it to also entice people with the money making possibilities. I’m sorry to burst any Plexus bubbles… and it can work for some… but it’s no different than the much cheaper versions out there on the shelves.
I have a good friend who sells it and we have had this conversation many times. She says she is just going to ride the wave until it hits the shore. If you eat a healthy diet and exercise, you can lose weight while taking Plexus. 🙂 If you eat a healthy diet and exercise, you can lose weight while taking….. (fill in the blank).
The only people I see who really promote Plexus products and have fantastic stories to share are those selling. My friend I mentioned earlier goes on and on about the products… how yummy they taste and how they have helped her so much… but when it’s just me and her, she hates the taste, rarely takes it because it is too expensive, and hasn’t seen any change in her health/weight. She was very thin to begin with, so was already a walking billboard. She likes sales though, so enjoys her “job”. She does make good money.
Michael says
You got it straight, Cassie. It’s nothing more than a sales pitch of products that otherwise would blend in to anything else on shelves. Plexus was very smart to harness social media and allow twits to post outlandish claims about what this stuff does. As I have said before, what do you think most people are more likely to gravitate to: a message of making healthy choices and exercising or the selfie on Facebook saying “rockin’ the pink drink this morning”?
Toss in a claim that money can be made and the herds come flocking.
What people fail to realize is that Plexus has already been busted for having harmful ingredients in their products. Due to the lack of FDA oversight, they are most likely still doing that. We don’t know where they manufacture this stuff and there has never been a verifiable study on its purity or any of the 9 million claims ambassadors make. Yet, people blindly ingest this garbage and will wonder why they have health problems down the road.
Kimberly says
Could you recommend a probiotic that you think does work? I have to eat yogurt (activia Greek to be exact), but I am trying to get away from the high sugar.
Joe says
Hi Kimberly, I’ve heard good things about CVS probiotics and Align probiotics if that helps.
Pete says
Ambassadors
Try and understand this! 99% of you will not see Maui, unless you pay for it yourselves. The 1% will go on your money and your efforts selling this junk.
One of your own executives said,” Maui is always more fun when you go on somebody else’s dollar”. That your upline taking advantage of your dollar.
Smarten up people.
Michael says
The flurry of FB posts on this Maui crap. All about how excited they are to see their uplines going and how “next year” they’ll make it. Sadly, some of these are the same ones who posted this last year.
Pete says
Sadly enough, based on MLM stats, most of these people who say they will be going to Maui next year, will not even be with the company. 80% + drop out after a year, or soon after.
The upline thrives on deceiving people for their own benefits. ‘You are going to make it, just keep going and recruiting new people”
Jessie says
I have been taking the Plexus Slim for about a week now (a friend gave it to me).
As skeptical as I was, I’m shocked at how good I’ve been sleeping and how refreshed I feel when I wake up in the morning.
However, after reading all these posts I concerned that it has interfered with my thyroid medication (Armour Thyro). I’m feeling pretty foolish for not taking the time to research these products more carefully. I’m due to have my bloodwork done (to see if this new medication is working), however, I’m wondering if I should wait a while until this stuff is out of my system…
Any educated suggestions would be greatly appreciated for this thyroid issue I’m having is new for me.
Joe says
Jessie, have you tried seperating plexus slim from when you take your thyroid meds by a couple of hours to see if that helps things?
Sarah Foster says
Jessie, I started Plexus on the recommendation of a friend, who was able to come off of her thyroid medications using Plexus products. I have also had the same results. You may need to separate your medication from the Slim, because of the chromium, if you feel it’s causing an issue. It did not for me, but others have said it made a difference for them. Hope this is helpful to you!
Joe says
Sarah, Can you tell me what Plexus products used and how long did it take to get off of your thyroid meds? What plexus products are ambassadors saying will get people off thyroid meds?
Pete says
Joe
Was in the thyroid market as a rep. and most doctors frown upon most supplements because of them interfering with dissolution, and absorption. Once a doctor achieves the desired blood levels of T4, they don’t like to take a patient off that medication, except for maybe an adjustment.
This is just more BS from PS. Be surprised if Sarah answers your post. If true, what ingredient in PS is responsible for the patient to be taken off their T4.
Joe says
Pete, thanks. I was hoping sarah could give more info on this in case others ask about it and so I could add more info to my review. While I am generally skeptical of claims like this, I have met 1 or 2 people who told me they were taken off thyroid meds via altering their diet. If sarah can give me the answers to my questions, it might help me do a little digging and if there is anything to it. I’m always curious.
Michael says
Sarah is just another ambassador who floats misleading garbage on the internet. Her Facebook page is littered with the Plexus talking points and before/after pics that get passed around between them all.
Her last post was the typical “so happy for my friends who are going to Maui” meme that all of them are posting this month. The most disgusting post on there is a flyer about an ADD/ADHD Autism Spectrum Disorders meeting that Plexus ambassadors held in Frisco, TX.
I know one of the ladies who hosted and I can tell you that anyone who listens to this one might as well be listening to a fence-post because the intelligence level is about equivalent between the 2.
Mrs. Foster will not reply back here. She was prompted by an upline to post here in defense of Plexus and by posting her name, she gets kudos from said upline. The upline goes to Hawaii and Mrs. Foster sits at home.
Pete says
Carol
Just refer people to this site who have questions about supplements. Joe has helped many people seeking knowledge about the subject without putting himself above the advice of the doctors.
Carol says
I used Plexus slim and probio 5 and biocleanse for a month and ended up with gastritis and many other issues in my GI Tract. Be careful.
Joe says
Carol, so sorry that happened to you. I hope you are better today.
Michael says
Carol,
Out of curiosity, did a physician have any kind of explanation why this happened to you? It would seem that repeated use of a laxative (what BioCleanse actually is) might have been the culprit. However, it would be interesting to know if the other products contributed. Best wishes for a recovery from all of that.
Carol says
My doctor had no idea what caused my GI tract problems. I’ve always been a fairly healthy person. After much investigation into my lifestyle choices, he said the only thing that made sense was that i had started using Plexus. It’s my own fault. I wish I had found this article before i started using the supplements. I’m still in the process of recovering. It takes a few months.
Tavis says
Plexus, like all other Weight Loss Supplements, do not use ingredients that are supported by the scientific literature. Chromium is useless as a weight loss aid. GCBE may have some merit, specifically since it contains Chlorogenic Acid but Svetol seems to have the best scientific literature to support it’s use.
You would need much higher dosages. Garcinia and ALA are also useless weight loss aids with no scientific evidence to support use. Plexus is using un-educated sales people to sell products to vulnerable customers who are clueless. Fix your diet first before trying these type of products.
Michael says
“Plexus is using un-educated sales people to sell products to vulnerable customers who are clueless.”
Absolute, spot-on truth right there. That is what is so sad about this whole cultish phenomenon of Plexus. So many people sucked in with the promise of looking like some unverifiable before/after pic they saw on Facebook.
Pete says
Michael and Tavis
You can rule ignorance; you can manipulate the illiterate; you can do whatever
you want when a people are uneducated, so that goes in line with how PS, and other MLM companies take advantage of good people. MLM companies breed on the uneducated, and more importantly the financially desperate.
Tavis says
Without a doubt Pete. As a Sports Dietitian with 15 years working in the Professional and Collegiate ranks as well as 10 years working with Supplement companies to help them formulate Sports Nutrition products, i know the cost of raw materials as well as the science behind the ingredients that go into the products.
95% of the formulas for all Pre-Workout, Weight Loss, and most all other blended products are Scams. Most are just low dose branded ingredients with a multi-stimulant matrix to make you feel like something is working.
New study posted today on Green Tea supplements – no benefit again for weight loss – http://jn.nutrition.org/content/145/5/864.abstract
Jackie says
I started on Plexus around the same time I quit drinking diet soda (and soda in general) and my face broke out in a rosacea type rash which continued down my neck and chest. It would get worse and better in waves. I’m extremely constipated and my face hasn’t been this broke out since my teens (I’m 36) I have another plexus shipment coming because I was going to wait it out, but the price of Plexus is too much to pay the price of my self esteem.
I am also on thyroid medication, which after reading other testimonials is being cancelled out by Plexus supplements.
Pete says
For all you MLM simpletons who are set on claiming you are involved in a legitimate business. I found out today that the SBA (Small Business Association) does not recognize MLM as such, and will not make loans to ANYONE involved. Their feeling is that the failure rate is too high. Regular businesses do have a high failure rate (39%), but not near the 99% failure rate of MLM.
Donna says
I have been on the Probio 5 for a few months, and I think it gave me a yeast infection. I didn’t have it before I went on it, and it just continued to get worse, so I went off of the Priobio and it’s going away.
How could this be…maybe because it contains yeast? I dove into these products head first without doing my own research, and I spent several hundreds of dollars.
When I did my research on the ingredients on the products, I was disappointed to learn that I was wasting my money.
There is a lot of marketing hype associated with all of the Plexus products. And, most notably, some of the products could be very dangerous for some…be careful.
Pete says
Donna
The marketing ” hype” of PS products you speak of is nothing more than “deceptive measures” that create an “illusion”. Glad you are ok, and you are right in telling everyone to be careful.
Cheryl says
Donna: Yeast infections will not go away on their own once you get one. You must have it treated before it will return to normal.
Correction:
You mention in #5 of the comparison between the old and new formulas:
“There is a LOT less Vitamin B6 – down from 25 mg in the old formula to 2.5 mg in the new product.”
You have Vitamin B6 next to the grape seed which is why you have a dramatic drop and vice versa (you have next grape seed at 2.5 mg next to the vitamin B6 at 25 mg).
Joe says
Hi Cheryl, When I compared the old and new formula, I tried to list them in order as they appeared regardless of whether they were in the same positions on the old and new formula. As for the amount of B6, being reduced to 2.5 mg from 25 mg, I have screen shots of the labels that say both 25 mg and 2.5 mg. Whether the original label saying 25 mg was a typo I cannot say. Either way, I’m ok with less B6 because too much can have side effects such as those mentioned on the Mayo Clinic site: http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/vitamin-b6/safety/hrb-20058788
I hope that clears things up.
Gretchen says
Joe,
I landed here in my search for whether Probio5 is organic and GMO free. I cannot find any info stating it is. Ambassadors of this product are pushing it on people who are trying to heal from candida overgrowth and leaky gut. But no one can verify to me that the product is organic….no one who is not a plexus ambassador can tell me they have healed or improved from Probio5.
Leaky gut can lead to other diseases for those who do not know. Of course doctors will not tell us that. I know of a doctor who claims he never heard of candida…Then said no I won’t test for candida because I don’t think this (the symptoms) are caused by it… All in about 5 min.
Instead the patient, one of my family members, must go through more costly testing, lots of appointments, different specialists.
I take a refridgerated probiotic which is GMO free, organic. Too many antibiotics in our foods, glyphosate sprayed on wheat, sugarcane, and on GMOs is causing candida overgrowth and leads to leaky gut. Thank you for any info on whether Probio5 is indeed organic GMO free.
Joe says
Hi Gretchen, I’m not sure if it’s organic or not but my guess is if the are not saying it is, then I’d assume it’s not organic.
Cara says
Gretchen-may I ask which probiotic you take? I am interested in a good product to try.
Cat says
Joe,
1st
“What follows are some theoretical side effects that occurred to me or which turned up as I was writing this review. How likely they are to occur, I have no idea.
Peptizyme (Serrapeptase) might have a blood thinner effect so it might interact with blood thinner medications. This effect is also mentioned on the ProBio5 label.
Don’t take probiotic supplements if taking antibiotics.
Women who are pregnant or nursing or who have any medical conditions should speak to their doctor before using. This is also mentioned on the ProBio5 label.”
Actually… probiotics (not necessarily ProBio5) ARE recommended to patients who are on antibiotics by doctors and practitioners. Just as patients are encouraged to consume yogurt and other foods to keep their good bacteria replenished as the antibiotics kill the problem causing organism. See the problem with antibiotics is that it kills the good with the bad. Hence why women (very often) end up with yeast infections when taking them. Please do not make assumptions.
When I first started reading your reviews I was thinking oh good, an objective review. But it seems after reading several different reviews that is not necessarily the case. I will also point out that several of your sources are not necessarily considered reputable in the medical arena.
Joe says
Cat, While I would argue that I am very objective, you are welcome to your opinion. That said, let me try to address the issues you raised in your comment:
Since I never know who reads my reviews, I prefer to be conservative about side effects. I hear from many people who assume that because something is sold over the counter as as supplement, that it has to be safe. We cannot always assume this and that is why I’ll mention side effects, even if they appear – to you – to seem reaching on my part. There will be those who like yourself are in the medical field, and then there are those who have no such formal training. My hope is that people read my reviews and take their questions to their doctor or in some cases, their pharmacist, for more personalized recommendations.
Since Plexus ProBio5 is a supplement it is different -in my opinion – than food. You cannot make the assumption that because yogurt is ok, the same thing is true for probiotic supplements.
I understand about antibiotics and probiotics but, making blanket statements like this on the web is in my view, inappropriate. People who read stuff on the web may have different health issues.
The majority of sources on my site go directly to national library of medicine peer reviewed investigations. While occasionally I’ll link to Wikipedia, that is for general background information and is not central to the review or conclusions.
Which sources – besides Wikipedia do you feel are not reputable? I’m always willing to take suggestions under consideration.
Cat says
I’m not defending the plexus product.
I addressed your statement about taking probiotics with antibiotics as you did not specify that you were speaking of the ProBio5 and not probiotics in general. So, my remark stands and is not irresponsible.
As patients are usually informed to get ANY probiotic at their drug store or eat yogurt with probiotic enzymes such as Activia… There is no big push to sell another expensive prescription for something so basic. Not all health care providers are out to support big pharma and not everything needs to come from behind the pharmacy counter. Most providers really are out to provide quality health care to citizens who live on a budget.
The sources I speak of include the Washington post and New York times.
Joe says
Cat, I never implied any conspiracy to promote “Big pharma” over lesser expensive options. What I can say to you is that as a nurse, you likely make your recommendations face to face and having full access to the persons medical records. I do not have that luxury. So, where I feel is needed, I’ll paint with a somewhat broad brush, again to hopefully coax people to medical professionals who know the persons specific health needs best.
The Washington Post and NY Times do some very good reporting. If I link to an article it’s because I believe it to contain useful information. Remember Cat, I am not writing to medical professionals. I’m trying to help the general public who likely does not have backgrounds such as ours. Sometimes linking to a well rounded article can be more effective than pointing to the latest study in the Lancet.
Michael says
“the Washington post and New York times.”
Reputable sources? Are you joking?
Michael says
Cat writes:
“Actually… probiotics (not necessarily ProBio5) ARE recommended to patients who are on antibiotics by doctors and practitioners.”
Cat, most physicians prescribe probiotics in a very specific way when a patient is on a cycle of antibiotics. As a purported RN, it seems irresponsible of you to make a general statement like this.
Reb (@TheRealReber) says
I agree with Cat here. Actually Joe/Michael probiotics are over the counter. My daughter got pretty sick from taking antibiotics that we were prescribed from an after hours clinic. We went to the doctor to see what was wrong and she said we should always take OTC probiotics with antibiotics. All we did was mix it into a drink and she drank it. She would have had to eat way too much yogurt for the same effects. Again not sticking up for ProBio, but probiotics are beneficial coming from a doctor over yogurt.
Michael says
We went to the doctor to see what was wrong and she said we should always take OTC probiotics with antibiotics.
Ummm…..maybe you should take a second glance there. I said that “physicians prescribe probiotics”. If you believe that in all cases, taking probiotics without checking with your physician is the way to go, then by all means feel free to do so. Not only are there some probiotics that will have an adverse interaction with antibiotics, there is also a time frame you should adhere to when taking them – i.e. not at the same time as it may reduce the antibiotic effectiveness. Hopefully your doctor mentioned this. If not, well, keep that in mind the next time you visit them.
Karen says
There are a lot of ugly people out here. For those of you who really want information–don’t waste your time here!
And yes I believe in supplements. The medical community has their own agenda and they are far from knowing everything!
But for those of you who think you know it all, enjoy your ignorance.
Joe says
Karen, care to show me where I went wrong?
Michael says
Karen,
Would you call it “ugly” to convince people to take supplements which have never been tested and proven by a clinical study? Would you call it “ugly” to spread falsehoods about ingredients and potential results of taking supplements? Would you call it “ugly” to parade bonus checks and how much money you make on Facebook? Would you call it “ugly” to make false statements and have the FDA send out a warning letter about misleading the public about your product?
Is it “ignorant” to do research on your own about the ingredients of an untested and unverified product over listening to what people post on Facebook? Is it “ignorant” to be disturbed by people who give their children supplements that claim to cure ADHD and other ailments when no such evidence of that exists? Is it “ignorant” to believe that not ingesting things like higenamine and yerba mate is a better way to live healthy?
Exactly where is your criteria for “ugly” and “ignorant”
Pete says
Michael
You forgot one more “ugly” for Karen. Karen, is it “ugly” to badger your relatives, and friends to join PS, and buy products just to support your lifestyle? Badger to the point you lose your friends, and the respect of your relatives?
Moe says
It has a money back guarantee, so who cares, if it don’t work you get your money back and nobody loses here….and they get no profit…
Joe says
Mo, do you also get a refund on the money spend returning the product?
Pete says
Moe
When you send your PS products back for a refund, and from what I hear you probably will, let us know how much energy and time you put into it trying to do so. I understand, it’s not an easy task. PS probably has your credit card, and therefore they got you by the ya-ya.
And, to answer Joe’s question about paying for shipping the product back. Yep, you do. Read your contract, or company policy.
Michael says
“It has a money back guarantee, so who cares, if it don’t work”
Moe,
Virtually every complaint against Plexus on BBB and other sites (scam.com, etc.) center around this so-called “money back guarantee”.
Many people have attempted to get their money back and failed to do so due to contractual language conveniently written into things they get duped into signing.
You claim that they “get no profit”. This is also a fabrication. New customers get pressured into the promise of lower prices if they sign up as an ambassador for $34.95 or whatever price they are shilling now.
There’s no money-back guarantee for those folks and virtually none of them are told of the reduced return period that places on them. Many of these folks simply fold their losses and give up. Plexus keeps that money and distributes it to the uplines who conned folks into the system.
Pete says
Moe
Based on my knowledge of studying the MLM sales model, only 2% of distributors actually make an effort to return their products. This number is based on the entire industry and that includes PS. Returns, or what you call a return policy, is a “money making machine” for PS, and most other MLM companies based on deception. The deception is in making you think it is an easy process, and it isn’t. They can debit your credit card at their discretion, holding your return products, and your MONEY, and as Michael stated, using both to their benefit. One of the biggest, and most profitable schemes PS has going for itself. The promise of returns is a scam as is PS.
This should blow your mind, but it gives you, and others an idea of what the point I am making:
Ex: $1000 of PS products were sold. Only 2% of product was returned, (2%x1000= $20.00). That means the company has $980.00 of distributor dollars to do whatever they want. This is incredible to me, but fact based on research.
Moe, be cautious when the first statement coming from an ambassador’s mouth is ” buy my products, the company has this particular return goods policy.” Doesn’t show much confidence in the product, does it?
itch2ride says
I just want to jump back in here. The thing I find troublesome with products like this, is that no one knows long term effects. Also, once you start taking these type of supplements, you have to stay on them forever. Otherwise, the weight will come back, and other conditions the person felt they were helped with will come back.
The other product like this is Thrive. People claim to be Thriving every day. Oh, I’m not tired because I’m Thriving. Sounds like they’re on Meth. I believe in supplements, but not those that require you wear a patch, pop pills every morning, etc. It worries me.
Plus, we don’t know how it will effect interactions with medications that might be necessary. And some want to claim you can stop taking insulin if you’re diabetic, or in my case, someone tried to convince me I can stop taking Synthroid! That’s a little dangerous. I figure if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. And that is the case with me: I feel great, I don’t need to lose weight, etc, and I don’t need to be Thriving or doing Plexus.
Joe says
itch2ride, here is my review of Thrive W
itch2ride says
Interesting. One ingredient that jumps out at me is Synephrine. So in essence, people are speeding on Thrive. They run the risk of heart attack, high blood pressure etc. AND when they stop taking Thrive, the weight most likely will come flying back on, and then some, because of lack of Synephrine In their system. Scary. And there are just so many ingredients. I just wouldn’t want to put that combination of ingredients in my body. I think I’ll stick with watching what I eat and exercise. Makes me feel great!
Chris says
I tried the Probio5 to sort of support/encourage a family member who was having “success” with Plexus products. I’m 5’3″ and average between 112-114 pounds. I eat very well and exercise. I take no supplements or medications.
I took the probio5 for about 4 days. I literally stopped going #2! Not trying to be gross, but I was full of “it” and felt horrible! I don’t know what in the world would cause that reaction. Maybe my body freaked out. I don’t know. I’d been eating Kefir and just replaced the probio5 to see what would happen.
I returned the product.
When the family member confronted me on my experience, I was honest. I was then told by the family member that my body was purging the candida (WHAT?!) and I needed another product called Bio Cleanse (laxative?) to flush it out. I didn’t take them up that. When I had ordered the probio5, I couldn’t even read the label information on their website! I had to actually google images of the bottle to try to find out the CFUs in each dose. Looks like they now show more information on their site (legal liability?).
I feel like this company plays on the medical ignorance of unhealthy people who make poor lifestyle choices. Plexus allows people to deflect responsibility of those lifestyle choices onto these obscure “diseases” and then offers “cures” at a very high monetary cost.
It makes me sad to see so many people fall in this trap. I was in another MLM company for 9 years and the tactics used are cult-like and emotionally damaging. I’m happy for those who have lost weight and are getting healthier. I just wonder how much is the placebo affect. Thanks for letting me speak my opinion. Blessings.
Joe says
Chris, you are welcome. Thanks for sharing.
Michael says
Chris,
Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree with what you say about the company preying upon medical ignorance of people. Catch phrases and buzz words seem to take over any sensibility a person can muster, then it is amplified with the promise of making money. This company follows a recognizable pattern of getting a person to try one product and when it doesn’t work, they have a slew of other products that will be the answer to all your ailments. If the Plexus pink drink doesn’t work, then try Accelerator. If that doesn’t work, add ProBio. Still having trouble? Try Bio-Cleanse and X-Factor. Want to kick things up a notch, try Boost. You gotta try Block. I mean, how many pills and powders does it take?
Joe,
I wanted to ask if you have any knowledge regarding probiotics with regards to pill form versus yogurts, etc? It would seem that taking probiotics in pill form is a much less effective way of getting benefits over a simple yogurt. Aren’t the probiotics in yogurt more of a “live” culture rather than those in pills, which seem to be void of hydration, which renders them altered?
Joe says
Michael, I believe there are now freeze-dried probiotics that I dont think are “alive.” I’ve heard these work well as long as they aren’t exposed to moisture or heat. While they may last longer than yogurt, for me, Id need proof that they do more than yogurt would to justify the cost. I also found this link which has some interesting information: https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/science-public/probiotics-better-dead
Pete says
Emily
Your thinking is right on with all the other MLM simpletons. Unlike the industry (MLM) you are obviously involved in, the FDA approves every product that hits the market with years, and years of clinical data and trials. MLM, throws a bunch of junk in a barrel, not concerned about the short, or long-term effects, and puts what they call a product on the market. Because PS is junk, and the promoters know it, is why they sell it through MLM channels. You know, the term when mentioned, people run from.
Does the FDA make mistakes, sure they do, but it’s the best we have in controlling the pharm. industry. MLM basically have no controls, only guidelines that the industry steps on every day.
Emily, would you list the bad things the FDA said about PS. They only responded with a warning letter because PS was making “false” of products. They simply listed the claims, and demanded PS respond. Now, who’s fault is that.
Emily, what you, and others need to understand is that MLM is the most “deceptive” marketing practice on the planet, and deceives millions of good people out of billions of dollars each year.
paige says
I’d just like to know if you thought it does what is says it does? Very disappointing article.
Joe says
Paige, As I said in final section of my review, I don’t think plexus probio5 promotes weight loss. I said that because I see no good proof. I also don’t think it help helps brain fog, or sugar cravings either. What was so disappointing about what I wrote?
Michael says
Apparently you didn’t claim that it helps virtually every known condition under the sun, Joe. That’s what Plexus ambassadors pitch it as and unless they get positive responses, they consider you disappointing, a “hater”, or unintelligent.
If you will recall, the FDA sent Plexus a warning letter over the claims it made with this product, along with the Fast Relief and BioCleanse products. http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2014/ucm411287.htm I’m unaware of any response that Plexus made with regards to these warnings.
Joe says
Michael , I missed that warning letter. Thanks for that!
Emily says
Michael, Joe, and you others who keep talking about the FDA….. I don’t trust the FDA at all, so if they say something is ok, I stay away from that poison! And if they say something isn’t ok, I think there may be some health benefits to it! They’re all about the money as well…… Perhaps more so than any MLM out there!
And Plexus isn’t paying the Them anything I’m assuming so why would they endorse Plexus? So if the FDA says bad things about Plexus, that makes me think there’s actually probably a lot of good things in it…..
Joe says
Emily, I looked at my review and all my comments here. I did not mention “FDA” once so far.
Michael says
Emily, you are entitled to be an idiot. Seems like you have put that right into practice and I hope it works well for you. Be sure to load up on all things Plexus and feel free to check back in with us from time to time with your results.
Michael says
These Plexus folks – they just can’t seem to make enough outlandish claims wherever they go. Probiotics somehow curing a central nervous system disorder, who knew?
Theresa Balchus says
Those are all side effects of a systemic yeast infection, as well. Look it up. I’ve suffered from all of that my whole life because of an overgrowth of yeast.
Michael says
Fibromyalgia is caused by a systemic yeast infection? You better get that info over to the US National Institutes of Health. I’m sure they would love to finally be able to correctly diagnose the root cause of that disease. In fact, I’m sure they would sign up to become a Plexus ambassador and sell Pro-Bio ’til the cows come home.
ryan5 says
Michael, you seem like you are a very bitter individual. This poor women was just leaving her thoughts as are the rest of us. No need to be rude. I have never tried Plexus but I will say that I was bed ridden after my third child. For 3 years I was so sick and could hardly function. After every test and seeing 7 specialist, they concluded I had Fibromyalgia.
My Dr. told me that Fibromyalgia is simply unexplained pain throughout the body and especially at certain spots. Basically that means, they don’t know whats wrong with you or why it happens. I found a Doctor 2,000 miles away that dismissed that diagnosis and got me back on the road to health. I had yeast overgrowth and enormous amounts of inflammation from certain foods. I took many supplements and did an intense cleanse. Every few months I can feel the pain returning and I have to cleanse once again. But I am a whole new person. I can play with my kids, I run for exercise, and I can make it through a day.
But just a few years ago, my husband thought I was going to die. All I needed was the right supplements, nutrition, and to cleanse my body of yeast. So back to what people are claiming about Plexus or any other product for that matter… Could it be that they may really help despite your doubts? Different things work for different people.
Maybe it is a hoax, maybe it is in their heads. BUT maybe, just maybe it isn’t. Maybe for some people it really helps. So please just be respectful. If you haven’t tried the products, then don’t be negative.
Joe, maybe I’m wrong here, but this forum should be for education. Stick to the facts and stick to first hand testimonies.
Blessings to you all!
I hope you never have to know what its like to be so ill and have no answers. But if so, I hope you can find something to help.
Joe says
Ryan5, yes this is for education but here’s the thing; If the only people who post stuff are distributors of supplements, how can people get balanced information? In addition, I also know that not everybody who posts positive stuff are “real.” On other reviews, I’ve caught fakers who give one name and a positive testimonial and then post similar stuff using a totally different name. Same person – 2 different positive comments. I’ve also seen others who say they are not distributors of supplements but after I investigate them, I find that yes, they actually are distributors. I try to weed these people out but I know I’m missing some.
I do respect both view points and I know that both sides feel they are right and for the most part say what they do out of love not anger, those who say things differently than what we might like to hear, contribute something very significant to the discussion, insights people might not see elsewhere. My goal is to give people the best information so they can make a balanced decision on what is right for them. I hope that makes sense.
Michael says
“This poor women was just leaving her thoughts as are the rest of us.”
No she wasn’t. She was trying to push the unproven assumption that Plexus probiotics cured fibromyalgia. Further, she diagnosed fibromyalgia as being caused by a yeast infection. Call me crazy but in looking up info on the disease, I have never seen yeast cited as a cause of the disease, nor have I seen probiotics as a means of treatment. Look for yourself:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/fibromyalgia/basics/definition/CON-20019243
http://www.niams.nih.gov/Health_info/Fibromyalgia/default.asp#c
http://www.fmaware.org/diagnosis.html
I don’t doubt that people suffer from pain that cannot be diagnosed. However, that does not give them the right to make claims about a product that has not been clinically tested. They have no right to claim that diseases can be cured by taking a product that has not been FDA approved for curing diseases.
“If you haven’t tried the products, then don’t be negative.”
Oh, we have another one on this road, now. So I guess if everyone who snorts coke says it cures them of pain, we should just not be negative about it, right? Time and again, we have seen companies throw out products on the market that end up getting people sick or killed. They package up the latest and greatest supplement and make unverified claims for lemmings to come running.
Due to the lack of oversight on the supplements industry, they can pretty much rule the roost until the first lawsuit and then they fold up shop or “reformulate”. Don’t sell me the idea that Plexus is any different.. The FDA has already slapped them with a warning over making false claims with this product, so I think negativity might not be such a bad thing here.
Theresa says
I know how probiotics work and I know I’ve always had an overgrowth of yeast in my body since I was little (had several tests done by my doc and had a spit test done as well). I have been taking the Probio5 for a month and a half and I have lost 10 lbs. while changing nothing else, including diet and exercise. I have increased energy and haven’t felt this good in YEARS! I have fibromyalgia and all that that entails and I feel AMAZING!! The only difference is I started taking Probio5 by Plexus.
Theresa says
And, no, I don’t sell Plexus at all.
Joe says
Teresa, did your doctor issue the spit test? What did the spit test show? Did you get tests done before taking Prebio 5? What tests did you have done?
lwhite says
My neice swears this helps her son who is ADHD. I don’t buy it. I have read that a study was done on grapeseed extract an ADHD, but that there was no conclusive evidence that the extract helped. So, I just don’t see how this and Plexus Slim can help an ADHD child.
Joe says
Iwhite, neither do I. I would need to see proof that ProBio5 alters the types of bacteria in the digestive system.
Vickie Carrillo says
Many of my friends sell this stuff. I am constantly being asked to sell it and join their team. No thanks. Nor will I ever use it. Honestly, if people will just adjust their diets and exercise, drink more water and quit drinking soda, take vitamins, they can also lose weight.
What I find disturbing about this product is that it claims to be healthy for all kinds of health issues. I have a thyroid condition called Hashimoto’s which is an autoimmune disorder. It is in remission and I have zero issues. If I were to start taking any of these products I would probably start having issues again because the ingredients interfere with the thyroid and thyroid medication.
The reason I am skinny and in remission is because I cut out ALL foods that are not natural. No crackers, bread, pizza, no frozen foods etc. I only drink tea and water, and I exercise 5 days a week. All of my blood work is always normal and I feel great. And what makes me feel great is exercise. Not a powered drink. AND, when people quit taking this stuff they gain the weight back. I say if you want to do a replacement diet, make your own veggie drink or eat a carrot. Change your diet!!
Joe says
Vickie, really glad your Hashimoto’s is in remission!! 🙂
itch2ride says
Thanks!
Pete says
Michael
Tansy appears to be more knowledgeable on weight-loss, etc. than Joe. We know Joe’s credentials. Tansy, and Emily must be a product of Plexusslim University, where the only qualifications are you take, and past the “PST”. (Plexusslim Stupidity Test)
texascindyann says
it’s a hoax it doesn’t work. i was on the combination for over 9 months and didn’t lose a single pound plus I gained 15 pounds. I am out over 1065.00 and Plexus Slim fanboys blame me that I took it wrong. yada yaha yada
Moe says
Money back guarantee….
Tansy says
Wow, this page is to promote your own book and bash other products, no matter if they help or not. Seriously, you do NOT give an honest review of anything. OH, except that you have a book. WTG 😛
Joe says
Tansy, sometimes people ask me what qualifies me to review supplements and so Ill list the books I wrote on the sidebars of the site and occasionally in my review but do you really think I wrote all this and spent all that time in order to maybe make about $1 on any book sold via Amazon? if that’s what you think, then ok.
Pete says
Tansy
Why don’t you tell us what Joe did NOT give a honest review about? And, what are your qualifications to discredit Joe’s review?
Pete says
Tansy
Just what I thought. Trying to discredit people with NO justification!! Just another MLM simpleton.
Michael says
Tansy’s qualifications Pete? She’s an Ambassador and that makes her a qualified genius in this area.