Updated 6/6/24. Carnivora is a health supplement derived from the carnivorous Venus flytrap (Dionaea muscipula) that you may have seen advertised online or heard of during radio commercials (such as Coast to Coast AM with George Noory). Carnivora is said to help the immune system function better, or in the words of one YouTube video I saw, “wakes up the immune system and makes it dominant.” Does Carnivora work?” is the question everybody asks me. I've been curious about this product since I first heard the Coast to Coast AM radio commercial, so in this Carnivora review, I will share what I found when I looked at the research. Let's see what we can discover.
Who Makes Carnivora?
The company is called Carnivora Research International its website is Carnivora.com. The Contact Us page of the Carnivora.com website actually lists the emails of a variety of people within the Carnivora organization ―even the owner/CEO of the company, Richard Ostrow.
That level of transparency is rare in the supplement world, and I actually appreciated seeing this. There is no official address for the Carnivora company. There is, however a PO Box address:
- PO Box 1035 Weston CT 06883-0035
This is the same address listed on the BBB file for Carnivora also.
To contact Carnivora call 866 836 8735.
I was curious where Carnivora was made. I was unable to find this answer.
Carnivora Research International is a Better Business Bureau accredited company since 2009. It had a rating of “A+” when this review was updated. The company has been in business since 1981. See the BBB file updates and more 
Carnivora Research
On the Science of Carnivora page of the product website, there are links to many studies that serve as a testament to the benefits of Carnivora. Most of the links were clickable and linked directly to published peer-reviewed studies. I liked that. I looked at all of the studies listed on the Science of Carnivora page and, after which came to these conclusions:
1. The word “Carnivora” does not appear in most of the studies listed
2. Most of the studies listed are test-tube or mouse studies
This means most of the research is not on the supplement
Many of the studies make references to compounds ―such as something called Plumbagin ―but studies of individual/isolated ingredients (in test tubes or lab animals) are not the same thing as human studies on Carnivora itself.
After looking at the evidence presented on the product website, my question is:
American Cancer Society
American Cancer Society states that in 1985, a German oncologist named Helmut Keller who invented Carnivora in the 1970s (and who holds the patent on it) did a study involving 210 people with various types of cancer. Dr. Keller noted that 56% of people treated with the Carnivora extract experienced either remission or stabilization of their tumors. That's really impressive, but the ACS said the study has not been replicated.
I was not able to locate this study.
Why didn't Dr. Keller replicate his findings?
To be fair, it is disappointing that the American Cancer Society themselves did not attempt to replicate this study. The ACS did say the study was published, so I assume they have read it.
If anyone can show me the published study of Dr. Keller and Carnivora, I'll be happy to update this review.
A study published in 2013 reviews various compounds in Venus flytrap as they relate to cancer. This study covers several mouse and tube research investigations on Venus flytrap compounds. It does not mention human studies. The study does not mention Carnivora by name.
Other Carnivora Research
After writing my review, I was contacted by an information specialist at Carnivora, the conversation of which you can read in the comments below. The person informed me that there was additional research on Carnivora performed in Europe 25 years ago. I was told this research was prohibited in the US. I was also told that to read that information, I would have to provide an email address that was not based in either the US or Canada.
It was an odd request. However, I was intrigued by the possibility that additional research existed, so I complied and received the information a few days later. Below is a summary of the documents I received, along with my thoughts on that information.
1. President Regan and Carnivora. I was sent what appears to be, a small page out of a book, that discusses President Regan's use of Carnivora to treat polyps. If this is a book excerpt, there is no citation as to what that book is. In the January 2011 issue of Dr. Rowen's Second Opinion Newsletter (see below for more info), Dr. Rowen says that President Regan “used Carnivora with success to keep malignant polyps from returning in 1985.”
But, according to the website DrZebra.com, President Regan had his polyps surgically removed in 1987. If they were successfully treated by Carnivora in 1985, why did he have surgery to remove the polyps in 1987? Regardless of who is right on this issue, this book excerpt is not a published peer-reviewed study.
2. German Cancer Therapies: Natural and Conventional Medicines that Offer Hope and Healing. This is a book by Dr. Morton Walker, a freelance writer and retired podiatrist, and was published in 2003. I mentioned Dr. Walker in the section about Carnivora and HIV, so see that section also. Chapters 3, 4 
and 5 of that book discusses Carnivora. That said, book chapters sent to me did not contain any peer-reviewed studies to substantiate the claims made in these chapters. As such, we can't tell anything about them.
Remember, I had to provide a non-USA-based email address to receive all of the information discussed in this section. I don’t see why I had to do this because this book is available on Amazon.
3. Comments of Dr. Daniel Kinner, OMD, L.Ac. On His Personal Clinical Experience Using Carnivora, Venus Flytrap Extract. This appears to be a letter dated March 8, 2000, from Dr. Kinner to Carnivora Research International. According to his website, DanKennerresearch.com, Dr. Kinner holds a Ph.D. in Naturopathic Medical Science and is an Oriental Medical Doctor (OMD). He is also a licensed acupuncturist (L.Ac).
In the letter, Dr. Kinner speaks of the experiences of his patients who used Carnivora. All the experiences were positive. But, since this is just a letter, it is not a published peer-reviewed study and amounts to just a testimonial, in my view.
4. The Townsend Letter for Doctors. This appears to be an alternative medicine newsletter (published in the US) and the issue that was sent to me is dated May 1992. I am not sure who wrote this article. There is a reference circled in the document, which I imagine is proof of what is stated in the newsletter. The reference circled is titled:
Kreher B, “Structure elucidation of plumbagin-analagues from Dionaca Muscipula and their immunomodulating activities in vitro and in vivo. International Symposium: Molecular Recognition, Sopron, Hungry, August 24-27, 1988.”
From the title, it appears this citation represents a study that was presented at a science convention. While presenting information is good in that it helps disseminate information to the scientific community, it does not mean that the information has gone through the peer-review process.
Regardless, this is not a human study. I was not sent any peer-reviewed studies of this information either, so it appears that this investigation was never peer-reviewed. Why was this information never published in a medical journal?
5. Dr. Robert Rowen's Second Opinion Newsletter, dated August 2004. This is just a newsletter where a doctor discusses what he knows and has observed about Carnivora. It also mentions Dr. Kenner (see point #3). Unfortunately, there are no peer-reviewed references in the attached newsletter either.
6. Dr. Robert Rowen's Second Opinion Newsletter, dated July 2009. In this issue of the newsletter, Carnivora is also discussed but it doesn’t say anything new. It just appears to be a rehash of Ronald Reagan and other people who said they were helped by Carnivora.
7. Dr. Robert Rowen's Second Opinion Newsletter. This newsletter is dated January 2011. Again, this is just a newsletter.
8. Molecular Recognition: Carnivora a New Discovery. This document is dated 1988. In the email I received, I was told that this is a clinical study. But, there is no author and no citation about where this is published. I don’t know if “Molecular Recognition” is the title of a journal or a chapter in a book or a private, internal document. This does not look like any published peer-reviewed study I've ever seen.
9. Comparison of lymphocytes subpopulation in various cancer therapies. This document is said to be a European clinical study, however it is not peer-reviewed and does not appear to be published in any medical journal. While it has a couple of graphs, the document appears for the part, to be a letter dated February 13, 1995, written by someone (who, I don’t know) to Dr. Helmut Keller.
There were other documents sent to me also that were said to be “European studies” however they don’t appear to be published in any medical journal.
Unfortunately, none of the documents sent to me are to the level that I would accept as “proof”, which is published, peer-reviewed research.
Carnivora and Dr. C. Joe Schneller
One YouTube video about Carnivora features Dr. C. Joe Schneller who said he is doing a study of how 3 capsules a day of Carnivora “wakes up the immune system and makes it dominant.”
The video was uploaded on June 16, 2011, but it appears to not yet be completed or published, as it is not listed on the Carnivora website or listed in the National Library of Medicine. Likewise, when I did a Google search for:
“Dr. Schneller Carnivora study,”
No study was revealed. I will update this review with his study and its results if it gets published.
Let's next look at some of the major reasons people might be interested in Carnivora and attempt to find clinical studies for those uses. That way, those interested in specific issues can get an idea of whether Carnivora might be right for them.
Carnivora and The Immune System
Carnivora is primarily marketed as something that can improve/modulate the immune system. Ironically, when I searched the National Library of Medicine for “Carnivora” no relevant studies showed up. So, I searched the National Library of Medicine for these specific words to see if there were any research:
- Venus flytrap immune
- Venus flytrap immunity
- Venus flytrap immune system
- Venus flytrap phagocytosis (refers to how some immune cells work)
- Venus flytrap antibody
- Venus flytrap B cell (B cells are a type of immune cell)
- Venus flytrap T cell (T cells are a type of immune cell)
- Dionaea Muscipula immune
- Dionaea Muscipula immune system
- Dionaea Muscipula immunity
- Dionaea Muscipula phagocytosis
- Dionaea Muscipula antibody
- Dionaea Muscipula B cell
- Dionaea Muscipula T cell
No studies showed up for any of these search terms.
This may mean Venus flytrap/ Dionaea Muscipula might not have been specifically studied for its effects on how it improves the immune system.
So why is it being marketed to boost immunity?
One of the compounds in the Venus flytrap is called Plumbagin. Some websites even claim that Plumbagin is the active ingredient in Carnivora.
Plumbagin does have some research. For example, Plumbagin has been studied for its possible anti-cancer effects. When I searched the National Library of Medicine for:
“Plumbagin immune” (click the link to see the studies) I saw a lot of studies, but most of them were conducted in test tubes or used lab mice.
What I didn't see was a study showing that Plumbagin (oral or injected) prevented the flu or improved arthritis symptoms ―or improved any other immune system-related condition ―in humans.
Carnivora and AIDS
Since Carnivora is touted to improve the immune system, a logical question would be Does it help HIV/AIDS? On one website that discusses this topic, a 1994 magazine article titled, The Carnivora Cure for Cancer, AIDS and Other Pathologies” published in Immune Perspectives, is mentioned. In this article, it's said that Carnivora caused the ” total elimination of the HIV virus.”
I tried to locate this article but I could not find it.
Additionally, I was not able to find a peer-reviewed journal called “Immune Perspectives” either. In fact, I could not find ANY magazine called “Immune Perspectives.”
The author of this article was Dr. Morton Walker, whose website is DrMortonWalker.com. I believe this is the doctor associated with the Immune Perspectives article. However, when I searched his site for the article it does not appear there either.
I then searched the National Library of Medicine for these words:
- Venus flytrap AIDS
- Venus flytrap HIV
- Dionaea Muscipula AIDS
- Dionaea Muscipula HIV
This search revealed no studies either.
I did locate a 2002 study titled Inhibitory effects of quinones on RNase H activity associated with HIV-1 reverse transcriptase that noted that Plumbagin (one of the compounds in Venus flytrap, as well as other plants) inhibited an enzyme that is needed for HIV to replicate. While this is interesting, the study was over a decade ago and was basically just a test-tube study.
Because of the lack of published research on this topic, I am unfortunately forced to conclude for the moment that there is no good proof that Carnivora or Venus flytrap extracts improve immune function in those with HIV/AIDS.
Some say black seeds can cure HIV. Here is a video I created about that research
Carnivora and Cancer
Can this supplement help people with cancer? I searched the National Library of Medicine for “Carnivora Cancer” but didn’t see any studies that specifically investigated Carnivora―itself― for how it might help cancer.
This is ironic because many websites relate the story of how former President Ronald Reagan used Carnivora to prevent cancer. Mr. Reagan still had part of his colon removed because of colon cancer. So, if he did use Carnivora, how significant of an effect did it have on his cancer?
Regardless, some of the compounds (such as Plumbagin) in Venus flytrap have been studied for how they might affect cell growth. But, in these studies, Plumbagin is used as an isolated compound (which is different than Carnivora which contains a variety of compounds). Also, most research on Plumbagin appears to be in the form of test-tube/Petri dish studies or lab animal studies.
I'm not aware of any studies in humans showing that Plumbagin cures cancer or slows cancer growth.
Also, how much Plumbagin is in Carnivora? I don’t know, but either way, it's irrelevant at this point because of the lack of published studies on humans.
For a more in-depth discussion, see this 2013 review titled Venus Flytrap (Dionaea muscipula Solander ex Ellis) Contains Powerful Compounds that Prevent and Cure Cancer. When I read this study, I noticed that it never mentions the name Carnivora or the name of Dr. Helmut Keller, the creator of Carnivora.
Carnivora and Arthritis
I did a Google search for “Carnivora and arthritis” and noticed that some websites mention that Carnivora has been used in Germany as a treatment for arthritis. But, when I looked at the various websites that discuss this issue, none that I saw included any studies to substantiate that Carnivora helps arthritis. They show no proof.
Likewise, I could not find any evidence when I searched the National Library of Medicine either. Maybe it helps or maybe it doesn’t but until studies are published, I believe the idea of Carnivora helping arthritis is open to speculation.
What About GI Issues?
Proof that the supplement improves digestion or helps people with intestinal problems could not be located.
Carnivora and Lupus
I searched the National Library of Medicine for these words:
- Carnivora lupus
- Dionaea Muscipula lupus
- Venus flytrap lupus
- Plumbagin lupus
No studies showed up. Unfortunately, it appears that there is no good proof, as yet, to determine if Carnivora helps lupus.
Carnivora and Fibromyalgia
Some websites discuss Carnivora as a possible treatment for fibromyalgia pain, but those sites provide no good proof of this. Likewise, when clinical databases were searched, no proof could be located.
Carnivora and Lyme Disease
Various websites discuss that the supplement might help Lyme disease but when proof of this cant' be located. Until that research is conducted, it's impossible to say if it helps or doesn’t.
Carnivora and Alzheimer's
Is there any proof this supplement helps dementia? Evidence cannot be located. I can't find any good proof that the Carnivora improves memory or helps people with dementia, including Alzheimer's disease.
Carnivora and Cats
Some clinical evidence suggests Carnivora can help cats with Feline Herpes Virus 1 (FHV-1), a viral infection that can cause respiratory problems in cats. Researchers in 2016 published titled Effects of Administration of Carnivora on Clinical Signs in Cats After Repeat Challenge with Feline Herpesvirus 1 (click to read pdf).
This investigation appeared to show cats treated with Carnivora had fewer upper respiratory symptoms than cats treated with a placebo. Here is a summary of the study and the results:
Study Summary
- The study involved 16 young adult cats (2 years of age).
- All the cats had FHV-1 for one year before the study.
- The cats were randomly split into a group that took Carnivora for or a placebo for 56 days.
- After treatment, all cats were exposed to the FHV-1 virus.
Study Results
- Cats treated with Carnivora were observed to have fewer upper respiratory tract symptoms than the cats that received the placebo.
Interestingly, the researchers also noted that “no clinically significant differences when comparing serum biochemical values from the Carnivora treated cats before and after treatment.” If I understand this correctly, it seems even though Carnivora appeared to reduce FHV-1 symptoms, it did not kill the virus.
The study does not specifically mention any effect on the immune system cells. That is unfortunate, given the immune-modulating reputation of Carnivora.
The authors state the study was supported by the makers of Carnivora, but that the company did not take any part in the study. That is good. I'm glad they are sponsoring research.
Does It Detox Your Body?
Some websites advocate Carnivora as part of a detox or “cleanse” to rid the body of harmful parasites and waste. These websites, however, give no good proof the supplement does this.
If Carnivora did boost the immune system, then I could understand how an enhanced immune system might be better at killing off bacteria/viruses. But, we will need clinical studies on this topic to know for sure.
Carnivora Side Effects
In healthy people, I believe Carnivora is safe. The Carnivora.com website states “There are no known contraindications using Carnivora with any prescription drugs (or other dietary supplements).” This doesn't mean there aren't any side effects. It just means the company isn't aware of any.
While it probably is safe, here is a list of things to consider when taking this supplement. This list is not complete.
- Speak to your doctor if you are pregnant or breastfeeding. The company also mentions this and specifically says the supplement “is contraindicated for mid to late-term pregnancy.”
- Stop taking at least 2 weeks before having surgery. This is sage advice for all supplements too.
- Start with less than recommended for the first week to see how you respond.
- If you take blood thinner drugs, speak to your doctor/pharmacist. The product website also mentions this although they seem to not like blood thinners at all, calling them “toxic.” I'm not sure I'd go that far. The website also states blood may become too thin if taking combining blood thinner meds with high doses (20+ per administration) of Pure Extract drops.
Doctors in 2014, reported the case of a 30-year-old man with Hodgkin’s lymphoma (a type of cancer) who developed kidney failure after using the supplement for about a year. This seems to be the first case of this ever reported.
The supplement website used to discuss the possibility of a Herxheimer reaction occurring if people use too much too soon. The herxheimer reaction refers to a temporary increase in adverse symptoms. This is said to be the result of the Venus flytrap extract killing the infection. The condition was originally attributed to the treatment of syphilis with antibiotics, but it might occur with other conditions as well.
Amazon Reviews
Looking at Amazon reviews, the supplement had a rating of 4.3 out of 5-star rating with over 1500 ratings. Over 60% gave it a 5-star rating and 14% gave the
supplement a 4 star rating. Most reviews are those who made verified purchases.
How Much Extract Per Capsule?
Each bottle contains 100 capsules. Each capsule has 125 mcg of carnivore extract. The website for the supplement lists 125 mcg, taken three times per day, as the optimal intake for preventive uses.
How Much Does Carnivora Cost?
When I checked the product's website, each bottle, which contained 100 capsules, was $39.95 + shipping. The shipping options are:
- Priority Mail: $8.09
- FexEx 2Day: $28.64
- FedEx Standard Overnight $37.55
This would be in addition to the cost. Here are the available price options:
- 2 bottles: $79.90
- 3 bottles: $107.85
- 4 bottles: 143.80
- 5 bottles: 179.75
- 6 bottles: $215.70
- 7 bottles: $251.65
- 8 bottles: 287.60
- 9 bottles: $323.55
- 10 bottles $359.50
Purchasing 3 or more bottles entitles ou to a $4 discount per bottle. A free bottle is included as a bonus for those who purchase 5 or more bottles.
Each bottle of liquid Carnivora extact is $44.95. Each bottle contains 1 oz (30 ml).
Where To Buy Carnivora
The official company name is Carnivora Research International, and the website is Carnivora.com. It can be purchased directly from the company.
This supplement is not sold in stores like Walmart, CVS, Walmart, Costco, Walgreen's, or CVS. It is sold on Amazon.
Carnivora vs. The Competition
It should come as no surprise that when something gets popular, others will pop up with their own Venus flytrap supplements. There are others out there. However, there is no research comparing the benefits of Carnivora to other Venus flytrap supplements.
To the company's credit, they have sponsored some research on their supplement. That gives them an advantage over other similar venus fly trap supplements.
It's unknown how the supplement compares to other immune boosters such as Dr. Zelenko's Z-Stack vitamin formula or the ever-popular elderberry.
Carnivora Pro & Con
| Pro | Con |
|---|---|
| Very good better business bureau rating | Limited clinical research |
| BBB accredited business | Lots of internet hype |
| company CEO engages with customers |
Research I'd Like To See
1. Randomly give the supplement -or placebo – to 10 people before and after measuring concentrations of various white blood cells. Let's see if anything changes.
2. Give the supplement or a placebo to 10 people with fibromyalgia and measure their pain levels before and after treatment.
3. Randomly give the supplement or placebo to 10 people with arthritis and measure their pain levels before and after treatment.
Each of these questions could be answered in a few months. It wouldn't cost much to do either. Hopefully, I just gave graduate students an idea for a dissertation topic (hint, hint).
Does Carnivora Work?
I don't know if Carnivora works or not because I don’t see human research either way. The research I found supporting one of its main ingredients (plumbagin) appears to be limited to lab animals or test-tube studies. While I remain skeptical, it's probably safe for most people, and I'm intrigued enough to hope future studies are conducted to understand this supplement better.
Effective cancer treatments other than the surgery, radiation, and mustard gas chemotherapy have been suppressed in the US for a long time and probably in Europe especially England as well though some things get through in Germany; and a few years ago the Italian oncologist published his book CANCER IS A FUNGUS [not sold in the US] and revealed the many case studies in which he successfully eliminated tumors by injecting pharmaceutical grade sodium bicarbonate into the tumors.
Afterward,, I believe he was put through the ringer of suppression. As have the many US who have found effective cures for cancer, most of whom were highly trained researchers and physicians as well as some others who utilized traditional fold remedies that worked at least in some cancer conditions.
Carnivora, if the active ingredient can not be patented and financially exploited is unlikely to get research funding and unlikely to have positive info published in a scientific medical journal as all are tied into the Big Pharma beast which distributes financial support through advertising which it can stop at any time, and which devises the ‘standards of care’ which are designed around
models of what is most profitable for Big Pharma. And if M.D.s do not follow those standards of care the insurance companies can and will decline to pay or if paid demand the money be paid back.
The deck is stacked against anything truly beneficial, especially cheap and beneficial, getting any Official Matrix stamp of approval or promotion.
James, while I don’t believe cancer is caused by a fungus, the book is on Amazon although it doesn’t look like its in English.
Hey Joe,
I believe you missed what James said, Joe. He said Cancer is a Fungus, not caused by a fungus.
I read all of the posts here as cancer is a continued plague on our society and I now have my father in law being treated for bladder cancer.
If carnivora is truly what people say it is, I wish there was a way for you Joe to endorse it. Your platform here on this site is more important than you realize.
S/,
Jared
Jared, I believe you are correct I misread what I thought the book was about. Sorry about that mistake. Jared, while I try to not endorse products, for me to be on board with any supplement, it would just take good human research published in peer reviewed journals.
I will say a prayer tonight for your father in law. I have been where you are now…
Full BURZYNSKI Movie: Cancer Is Serious Business. https://youtu.be/rBUGVkmmwbk. Beware, you may feel outragious anger after viewing. Skeptics or naysayers, say what you will. This is only but one of many many accounts that point to the same thing, example – Watch free 11 part online documentary, The Truth About Cancer starting March 30, 2015, http://thetruthaboutcancer.com/quest/#a_aid=1605727. Testimonials are not proof, yet in a world where the truth is blocked by government/big money, it’s one of the few sources we have to consider and decide for ourselves if it rings true, especially when myriads of people say the same thing about any given method, technique, supplement, home remedy, etc. One must also keep in mind that what may work for hundreds/thousands of people, may not work for you. Example, accupuncture and chiropractic by multiple practitioners have been ineffective for me for a variety of health conditions, yet have been a God send for many people the world over. My two cents.
I think……… there will never be a natural supplement allowed in the USA that can claim to help cure anything! Medicine is BIG business and they do not want some plant to cut into their profits! THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE EVERY TIME!
Monique, while I do think there is some truth to the axiom, “follow the money” capitalism dictates companies that make money, grow stronger. For example, several years ago, Abbot Labs – a pharmaceutical company – bought EAS, a supplement company.
Monique…I agree. ‘Tis very tough to decipher what is real and what is not. We’ve been ‘brainwashed’ to think FDA and our medical societies exist for our benefit. HA. Follow the money, honey…the main point is that THEY want to get rid of 2/3 of the world’s population. So why not use us for experiments, false flags?
Make money, grow stronger? Ouch.
A FRIEND OF MINE HAS BEEN TAKING CARNIVORA BECAUSE HIS PSA LEVEL WAS AROUND 9. , I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG HE TOOK IT, BUT, HE SAYS HIS LEVEL DROPPED TO 5.5. HE SAID HE READ A BOOK ABOUT IT BY H BOLINGER. (SPELLING ?)
Paul, really glad his PSA has decreased. Since PSA is not a perfect test, I also hope your friend has gotten additional prostate testes as well.
A sad shame that those who produce and sell carnivore give the desperate a false hope as they make a profit! I would have thought that the product would have sold itself if after 34 years of being on the market, if it was effective. I’ve never met 1 person who has even herd of the product? Oh, and the commercials on the radio are chopped up sound bites with a very weird and irritating background music.
Thank’s for this page!
if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is. it carnivora really cured or effectively treated disease it would have been proved and widely touted. also the patent would have been snapped up by big pharma by now.
** wise geek you have a lot of learning to do **
** have you heard of virtual office, have you heard of doing research in other languages, since the US is not the center of the world and there is science elsewhere…
** you should also search by folk medicine name or botanical, medicinal name, nomenclature
** here some studies for you:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3747514/
Someone,
**Did you you read my review?**
** Did you see I used the SAME REFERENCES as are on the Carnivora website**
** Thanks for the studies- one of the links didn’t work so I removed it**
** The study I could read was a review article and didn’t specially mention Carnivora**
** Thanks for writing** 🙂
I read the entire article. Besides the mumbo-jumbos in this article, it shows nothing about the effectiveness of using carnivora to be able to treat or cure people’s diseases in real life clinical trials. Give me proof!
I have personally tried Carnivora. I only take it when I start feeling sick and honestly the next day Im better every time. Ive also given some to my ex girlfriend when she was sick and she had the same results. Id love to see a resent study on this stuff. I honestly swear by it.
Hi joe,
Thank you for the review. As a student of a very renowned research university, I am relieved to see posters utilizing scientific evidence to analyze and intellectually criticize claims made by supplement companies. Testimonials do not strengthen nor fortify any claim IMHO.
I do NOT believe that a clinical study will be completed in 12 month as suggested by the information specialist. Any therapeutic must firstly be tested in vitro (cell line) followed with extensive in vivo studies (animal work) which take years to complete and move forward into clinical studies.
I must also address the elephant in the room that current professors in immunology would rebute in regards to Carnivora “waking up your immune system”. Does this entail hypersensitivity (asthmatic symptoms), septic shock (by the release of innate induced cytokines), inflammatory bowel disease, and other autoimmune pathologies that may occur with an over reactive immune system? Present immunological studies also stage that we have a symbiotic with our intestinal flora, why would I want a supplement that would potentially wipe out bacteria that keep me healthy.
Also as a rebuttal to those who state big pharma purposefully blocks natural supplement discoveries: members of the editorial boards of Nature, Science, Cell, and PNAS are elected under expectation that they do have no any fiscal obligations to any biomedical company. This insures that every method is taken to remove bias that may favor or deny a result of a study, to let the science do the talking.
KWhy, you are very welcome and I thank you for bringing up that tid bit about the election of journal editorial boards. Continued success in college!
Joe,
I have previously purchased Carnivora for my mother-in-law with small cell lung cancer. I am in favor for nutrition, herbs, and alternate medicine. In my family, my father, mother and brother all are M.D.’s, so I’m in favor for modern medicine as well. I believe in research rather than hypes. I believe in proven remedies rather than hypes.
I am a L.Ac. myself, I only recommended my mother-in-law to take very conservative doses of the Carnivora. She also had received chemo and rad treatments. The bottom line is I am neither for or against Carnivora, but I am for more concrete research.
There is a research I just saw online, not sure if you have read it yet, it’s on the side of caution.
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/crin/2014/486173/
Thanks Joe for you great post!
John S.
John S, thanks for writing and sharing that case report. I will update my review to include it. Very sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. My mom passed from small cell lung cancer 15 years ago. I do believe therapies have improved since then so she has that going for her. I will say a prayer for your family tonight that you all get the help and answers you need.
This is a great blog and the dedicated comments are more than helpful from the public. Free speech at its best….just one comment. President Regan as you spell it is incorrect. It is REAGAN. I have visited his birth place in Illinois. Thought you would appreciate the remark to be helpful not critical.
Robert, happy you found my website you are so right – thanks for catching my typo. The RNC would never forgive me for that 🙂
My mistake has been corrected. Appreciate the assist! Have a great NYE and 2015 !!
Joe, thanks for what you are doing. Our lives are about conducting OUR OWN Research.
I worked closely with Psychiatrist and Pharmaceutical Company Reps for 15 years and watched their drugs do more to harm those patients over time than help. Looking at their commercials, you would have to be desperate to take that stuff they are selling for your ailments.
My story, I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer the first week of November 2006 (Biopsy); VA Medical Center, Houston, TX. I was told that if I did not have surgery (or Chemo) that I would be dead by this same time in 2007. After being given all of the literature on PC, I went to my car and thought about all that was told to me. Before driving out the parking lot, I tossed all of the literature in the trash for the following reason.
So that anyone and everyone who reads this understands: I BELIEVE ON THE ANOINTED ONE JESUS, yes the same one that is in the Bible that many own, but will not study and Big Pharma, politicians, and Big Corporations hope that you never consider.
My point here is at the moment I am neither for nor against CARNIVORA (considering to try it) other than to say this; In the book of Genesis, Chapter 1, GOD talks (via Moses the author) about HERBS (verses 27 – 31). To that want to know what path to take, consider Chinese Medicine versus Western Medicine techniques taking into consideration the above reference.
Two books I recommend are ” The Vitamin’s Bible” by Dr. Earl Mindell and Jethro Kross”s classic “Back to Eden”. If there is “1” scripture that I would suggest everyone to consider it would be Matthew 16:24-26. Theses scriptures have made ALL of the difference for me.
Morris, thanks. I am happy that you are still here and beating cancer. James 4:17
Mac from LA, CA
I hope everyone here keep an open mind like Joe. Let’s not want to beat up Carnivora.
I have decided to take Carnivora in capsule form….my 5th month now…despite the lack of more concrete proof. I’m in my mid sixties. My reason is I want to live much longer and don’t want any cancer to cut my life short. I voluntarily taking Carnivora as a preventive supplement. Thus far no bad side effect that I can feel.
If you enjoy beating on someone, I suggest you looking into some serious side effects of many drugs which are APPROVED by FDA ( FDA who is supposed to look after the well being of U.S.citizens)…..many drugs bad side effects include: ” will increase your blood pressure” (imagine its effect on patients who already have hypertension), “will increase your suicidal tendency”, and how about many drugs side effect is “will cause death”. I rest my case.
P.S. Re: WHo is Lindsey Graham? He is a Pastor (not the politician) Regular guest on Coast to Coast radio program. Some years ago was hired by big oil company to be the spiritual counsel for the oil rig workers up north ( I think in remote area of Alaska). Few years ago he was very sick & he thought he was about to die. He took Carnivora & he recovered from his serious sickness. Lindsey Graham said he owed his recovery to Carnivora. This is his radio testimony. If I remember correctly….he said this during a radio interview with George Noory of Coast 2 Coast. At same time, he also recommend an eye vitamin. And now there is a radio AD that Lindsey G. recommending Carnivora….don’t know if he was paid for it or not. I believe he is in his 80’s now.
Well let’s not talk about curing anything. Maybe since you’ve got their attention they’d care to answer a few oddities in their ads that surely they can address legally here.
Who is Lindsey Graham? I know a politician named that. There’s a female pastor/singer named that who operates out of Sweden. Other than that though? Don’t tell me you saw the womans website, liked the name and didn’t realize…she’s…a female!
The person identified as such is now suddenly called Famous Pastor Lindsey Graham. Famous for what? Being mentioned in Carnivora Ads? I listen to a lot of talk radio and noticed a guy with the same voice calls into a lot of shows. Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck. He’s a frequent caller.
Surely a famous guy has a website or two, no? A Wikipedia? A church?
The reason you don’t find what your looking for is because Big pharma doesn’t want you to know what natural products work because they are safer for us to take , to much money involved in cancer research which employes many to say natural products work and man made meds create other health problems when taken people need to take their own health into consideration because we all know the doctors work for big pharma and the money involved is astounding and this is why a lot of natural products researched is either suppressed or is said not to work by your doctor , I wonder why ??
RUwatching1, that’s just not true and here’s why
Big pharm wants to make money. If they see a natural product working or is popular with the public, they will buy it – whether it works or not, they will buy the company. For example Abbott Labs bought EAS supplements a few years ago. EAS became very popular due to the publication of the book called Body For Life, written buy the owner of EAS.
Thank you for your informative blog. I was thinking about buying carnivora for my wife. She has overlapping lupus,fibermyalga,phyorsratic arthritis and degenerative discs in the spine. Your research has convince me it would be a waste of money, which we have little of (living on SS). Again thank you for your insight in this product. If it sounds too good to be true it generally is!
Russel, you are quite welcome. Sorry to hear about your wife. Take a look at Ribose for her fibromyalgia. Ive been intrigued with the research – and wish more would be done on it. Here is my review of ribose and Fibromyalgia. I hope it helps.
Hello Russell,
This is MaryAnn from Carnivora Research International.
As you would suspect, we cannot mention the names of diseases in the United States.
I would request that you call me to engage in a “legal” conversation regarding your wife.
The best time to call is between the hours of 1:00pm and 6:30pm eastern time.
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
1 866 836 8735 (Toll free US & Canada)
001 203 226 2522 (Tele International)
MaryAnn, are you actually suggesting that if Russel called you on the phone that you would say different things privately than you would here, in a public forum? That’s my take away when you said you could engage in “legal conversation” if he called you. If its “legal” why cant you just tell it here?
No Joe. We are simply reaching out to fellow mankind.
Just to be clear, we are referring to “legal” conversation according to the FDA restraints.
Also, we seriously doubt that Russell or anyone would care to engage in conversation regarding their loved one’s immune challenges on a public forum.
Surely you realize that, right?
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
MaryAnn, honestly, it didn’t sound like “reaching out” from my end. I think some might feel more comfortable here, and others can see what you would say on the phone before they call. that way they might feel more comfortable calling you on the phone if they liked.
Joe,
First off I want to say thank you for doing the research you did and putting in the effort to write it all up, and keep on top of the responses to this blog. I have a family member that has been diagnosed with lymphoma, and was recommended to start chemo, but has not yet done so, in favor of trying some other herbal remedies first, carnivora being one of them.
I had doubts about the product even before reading your blog, more after reading, and even more yet after reading the responses from the purveyors of this product.
If we take for granted that the pharmaceutical industry is a mafia like enterprise, with commensurate ability to bury people that threaten their profits in the New York Giants end zone, it still defies belief that a product that actually, really and truly cures cancer could ever be suppressed. Even by the pharmafia.
If this stuff actually worked, the owners would undoubtedly be multibillionaires and would have tons of studies and trials to back up all their claims. They would be famous. Hell they might just have won a Noble prize or two. After all, they claim to have the cure for cancer. Ok they don’t outright say they have the cure to cancer but they very strongly imply it.
It would be hilarious the way they hide behind not being able to actually say it cures cancer due to FDA restrictions, if there weren’t actually people throwing their money down the drain on this stuff. My family being a case in point.
Ok maybe I’m being too hard on them. Maybe it really does cure cancer. And maybe ground up panther testicles will make a man a sexual beast. Maybe.
I have a feeling these clinical trials will be delayed for one reason or another and in the end will never happen.
Sorry I agree to disagree with your comment have you ever noticed the many side effects from pharma meds have just to cure one ailment ? its because they are not natural to the human body , there is a reason why they don’t want natural supplements to say they cure this or that , just take all into consideration from man made meds to natural do your research on what is best for your body .
RUwatching1, sorry but you are wrong again. supplement companies cant say they “cure” diseases because if they were allowed to, it would confuse people. We both know some people wouldn’t know which way to turn for the help they need. You know as well as I do that there would be companies saying dumb things cure cancer, heart disease etc.
You are quick to bash big pharm (and you have good reason to) but we both know there are companies that market things that dont work at all – or work a little too well. Case in point, there have been several male performance supplements – supposedly “natural” that contained Viagra! How is Viagra getting into supplements?
Here is my review if Viagra in male performance supplements.
As a skeptic myself as well, it sounds like a placebo. The fear is that if clinical trials were conducted with sugar pills, that the results would probably be the same if the patient believed they were getting some exotic miracle cure to their disease.
Also, how are these extracts extracted? I thought the Venus flytrap was an endangered species.
Instructions are not clear as how to take the extract. Can you help me with this? Also one set of instruction said not to apply directly in the mouth but other says it ok, does it matter?
John, I’m not sure why there are different instructions for Carnivora. MaryAnn from Carnovora monitors this and she may be able to shed light on this. MaryAnn: can you help john?
I was referring to some information I came across as how to take Carnivora. I think your instructions indicate so many drops mixed with 4 ounces of water and then drink it.
Another read I found was to only put the drops under the tongue, (sublingual), so as not to have the Carnivora get destroyed in the gastrointestinal track. Any input on this??
I just got the rest of my order. Hopefully tonight I can read your instructions on how to do the liquid, capsules and lymph drainage, following program B.
Hello John,
Please feel free to contact us directly in order to clear up any confusion regarding the Program Instructions.
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
1 866 836 8735 (Toll free US & Canada)
001 203 226 2522 (Tele International)
Hello John,
Please feel free to contact us directly in order to clear up any confusion regarding the Program Instructions.
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
1 866 836 8735 (Toll free US & Canada)
001 203 226 2522 (Tele International)
Why not post it on here on how to use your product, seems kind of secret hush-hush stuff going on. Print it on here, if you want to sell the product to me you have to convince me and many others. Why does everyone have to contact you directly? Answer it on here out in the open all transparent like.
I am fair, but not easily convinced of anything anyone has to sell, especially when it has to do with my health. Thank you, and have a wonderful day.
Hello Joe,
To reply to someone by email regarding the Program Instructions is not as simple as posting the instructions online. We offer different Program Instructions depending upon the immune challenge. Contacting us is the way to communicate.
What more can they ask for? If John doesn’t contact us there’s not much we can do about that…the door is open.
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
MaryAnn, I was just curious when John said there were two different types of instructions. Is there ever a time when Carnivora would not be taken by mouth?
Joe,
It is not necessary to ingest Carnivora in any other manner other than Orally — as per the Program Instructions.
We can assure you of that…
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
Mary Ann, ok good so it should only be taken by mouth.
Joe, we see it as relevant to us since people are so adamant about us engaging in “peer-reviewed” studies. These consistent facts illustrate how corrupt the FDA, CDC and vaccines that kill and cause disease, corrupt FDA approved drug “studies” etc. are in the drug arena and the list goes on and on…
So certainly we question with heavy authority how relevant “peer viewed” studies in the United States are, — especially in view of the fact that the results of any such “study” depends on who the highest bidder is (“pay off”) at any given time.
We thought you and your readers should know WHAT THEY DESERVE TO KNOW…
Nevertheless, we are going down the U.S. based road of “peer-reviewed” studies.
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
MaryAnn, I’m sorry but since it doesn’t involve Carnivora, it’s not relevant. If you have published, peer reviewed evidence that Carnivora lowers mercury levels in humans then I’ll be glad to look at it – and even add it to my review. I mean clinical trials- not magazine articles, blurbs out of books or radio interviews.
If not, then no more dropping links to websites that are not relevant to this discussion. Trust me MaryAnn, it doesn’t help your position.
MaryAnn, When are you publishing research on Carnivora? You said it was in the works. Any updates?
We respectfully disagree with your assessment Joe.
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
Also, we’ll keep you posted when we have something to tell you (which is many months off) regarding Clinical Studies.
Most sincerely,
MaryAnn Kiss
Information Specialist / Social Media Marketing
Carnivora Research International
I will be here waiting when it’s published.
MaryAnn, you may disagree but since my review was about Carnivora we will stick to talking about Carnivora. No more posting of irrelevant links will be permitted.